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Originally posted by Britoid View PostOh well, Docker is dead anyway.
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Originally posted by anarki2 View Post
Which is cool on your own hobby PC, but not when you have to deploy dozens of workstations, where manually installing tons of random missing packages isn't exactly feasible. That extra disk space is usually way cheaper than IT labor.
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Originally posted by DoMiNeLa10 View Post
From my experience most are based off alpine, and I've heard devops complain about every piece of software that requires glibc.
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Originally posted by stormcrow View Post
Red Hat's RPM team: Challenge accepted. Hold my beer...
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Originally posted by Britoid View Post
What does a package format have to do with an init system? RPM doesn't give a flying crap what init system is being used. RPMs however can pull their upstream service files, where as DEBs Debian has to go through and make Debian-specific service files cause of "init-freedom", whatever the fuck that means.
For RPM:s you have to manually perform each and every step for each and every different init, e.g for systemd you have to sprinkle %systemd_preun and %systemd_postun_with_restart macros with the added drawaback that said macros only exist if you build on a system that runs that particular init so you cannot easily build a upstart package on a system that only have sysvinit and so on.
Now this does not bother the distributions since they always create individual packages for each and every version of the distribution that they maintain but I that create 3d party applications and that have to build for several systems at once have to maintain several .spec scripts for RPM:s just to make it work while I can use a single DEB setup regardless of for which debian bases distribution or version that I'm building for.
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by starshipeleven View PostYou are talking of decent projects made by half-serious people.
A lot of custom commercial stuff is using Ubuntu because that's the only non-Windows OS the developer knows, and the only OS the application will ever work on as there is no real dependency list on the payload application but it relies on "what libraries are installed by default".
Then again, many I know would like to kill that with fire.
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Originally posted by DoMiNeLa10 View PostFrom my experience most are based off alpine, and I've heard devops complain about every piece of software that requires glibc.
A lot of custom commercial stuff is using Ubuntu because that's the only non-Windows OS the developer knows, and the only OS the application will ever work on as there is no real dependency list on the payload application but it relies on "what libraries are installed by default".
Then again, many I know would like to kill that with fire.
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I'm not sure I understand the issue all people talk about "missing packages".
Isn't the "recommended packages" something that is not required to operate the applications you have installed? If it's not so then WHAT THE FUCK?
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