Fedora 31 Performance Is Still Sliding In The Wrong Direction - Benchmarks Against Ubuntu 19.10 + Clear Linux

[r_a_trip]

Am I the only one that found the headline to be overplaying things/too clickbaity?

Still going wrong way? The benchmarks are only for Fedora 30 and 31. It does not show that it is a continuance of a past trend.

Secondly, in most benchmarks the results are close and in many Fedora is beating Ubuntu.

The displayed results dont reflect the headline.

No, you are not the only one. I didn't see these "The sky is falling" results in the benchmarks either. So yeah. Some are a bit slower, but regressing? It is all so close to Ubuntu, that I'm wondering what the hubbub is really about.

I'm not even considering Clear Linux. I see that as a showcase. A niche distro, not a workhorse.

[sarfarazahmad]

Michael,
Could you please throw the last Manjaro into the mix ? It is a big boy distro now. Gives people stable/less efforts alternative to maintaining arch by hand. Throw vanilla arch into the mix. I am curious as to where Arch or arch-based stand. Arch is closest to upstream so that is another insight to gain.

[andyprough]

Am I the only one that found the headline to be overplaying things/too clickbaity?

The title was fair. Fedora 31 did not manage to win a single test, in a competition against its own past versions where it should have had some standout moments. It's definitely a regression of some sort.

[Britoid]

I can't find it on any random mirror server either. It seems only "server netinstall" is available for now.

Try https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fed...ng/x86_64/iso/

[Britoid]

Michael,
Could you please throw the last Manjaro into the mix ? It is a big boy distro now. Gives people stable/less efforts alternative to maintaining arch by hand. Throw vanilla arch into the mix. I am curious as to where Arch or arch-based stand. Arch is closest to upstream so that is another insight to gain.

It's October 31st, not April 1st.

Manjaro is a joke.

[You-]

The title was fair. Fedora 31 did not manage to win a single test, in a competition against its own past versions where it should have had some standout moments. It's definitely a regression of some sort.

That doesnt explain the "STILL". Unless there were also benchmarks for Fedora 29 present, which showed it beating Fedora 30. Regression is different from "further regression".

[andyprough]

That doesnt explain the "STILL". Unless there were also benchmarks for Fedora 29 present, which showed it beating Fedora 30. Regression is different from "further regression".

I think the "Still" has to do with it still bringing up the rear in comparison with other distros. Like here, Fedora 29 and 29+ updates and 30 being beaten by Ubuntu and by openSUSE Tumbleweed which uses btrfs which is slow compared to Fedora's EXT4: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...otential&num=6

[skeevy420]

It's October 31st, not April 1st.

Manjaro is a joke.

How so?

I've used it for three years now and the only problems I've experienced have all been due to me running unsupported software or configurations (mesa-git, other AUR stuff, ZFS on root, etc). When one doesn't stray from their ecosystem, Manjaro offers a fine and stable distribution and it and Tumbleweed are the only stable & rolling mainstream ease-of-use distributions.

While I can't speak for their other supported desktops like Gnome or XFCE, they offer a really solid Plasma desktop with quite a few kernel choices like all the current LTS releases, mainline, stable, a couple of real-time options, & release candidates, so whether it's old hardware or bleeding-edge hardware, they have a kernel and desktop combination that should cover everyone.

I've only used their Gnome live, and well, y'all know my feeling about Gnome/Plugins/etc and I last used their XFCE two and a half years ago and while it was nice then, it wouldn't be fair to review it now.

[Vistaus]

It's October 31st, not April 1st.

Manjaro is a joke.

It's Frankenarch for sure, but it's far from a joke.

[V1tol]

I've used it for three years now

Lucky you, all my 5 attempts to use Manjaro on 5 different configurations (from i686 Celeron M up to i7 9700K, including AMD-based boxes) ended with a hang up on boot after first packages update. And I was not the only one with such a problem. I am suspecting this can be fixed easily, but why I should do so if everything else (Fedora, Ubuntu, even Arch) is working on those boxes without any problems?