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    Phoronix: Debian 10.1 Released With First Batch Of Fixes To Buster

    Debian 10.1 was released today as the first collection of security and bug fixes to this summer's release of Debian 10 "Buster" GNU/Linux...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...-10.1-Released

  • royce
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    Just for the record, Synaptic does work in wayland via xwayland. You need to do xhost + which is a bit shit, but it does work. I believe Ubuntu was working with Gnome to automate this sort of thing, for the gnome users.

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  • AsciiWolf
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    Originally posted by GdeR View Post

    I'm even surprised it made it in Buster eventually, just before the final freeze. The original plan was to drop it entirely exactly because it wasn't going to work on Wayland. Many Xorg aficionados didn't quite appreciate that though, so it was just kept as it was. I personally can't remind any such exception for any other software on Debian, but I do understand Synaptic has been around for so long, and users got so used to it, it wouldn't have been nice to kill it without any real replacement ready.
    Yep, as you said: There is no real replacement for Synaptic. There are GNOME Software and KDE Discover, they are great for regular users, but lack most of the advanced features and do not display regular package names and packages with no AppData metadata.

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  • Weasel
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    Originally posted by debiangamer View Post
    For example, the Xfce desktop is old and buggy in Debian stable and that is a big problem. Xfce 4.12 spams errors to the .xsession-errors file and wears your solid state drive.
    Or use your brain a bit and make that file immutable. Then it will get created on /tmp which is tmpfs, no wear at all.

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  • skeevy420
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    Originally posted by armetuz View Post
    Why does anybody need an old-style distros like Debian when there are really good rolling distros like Arch Linux?
    Because not everyone is capable of being a sys admin that can maintain a system from the ground up. As an Arch user, I'll say that Arch's biggest benefit is makepkg and the AUR as well as the Wiki. If Debian had the DURP, the Debian User Repository Program, and an accompanying tool set with documentation of a similar quality as the Arch Wiki, Arch would lose quite a bit of users. If any of the mainstream distributions did that, Arch would lose users.

    We come to Arch because of the Wiki. We stay because of makepkg and the AUR.

    What does that really say and mean?

    We needs lotsa helps. Oooh, and I can has Shiny Things really ez.

    I don't agree with these Debian Sid posts. In my experiences, it's just as likely as Arch to break upon update. Live on the edge and you might fall...that's just common sense there.

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  • pmorph
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    Originally posted by debiangamer View Post

    For example, the Xfce desktop is old and buggy in Debian stable and that is a big problem. Xfce 4.12 spams errors to the .xsession-errors file and wears your solid state drive.
    That is very unfortunate, sounds like such Xfce version shouldn't have gone to stable. As for me, I just tweak things until everything works ok, and then keep it the same until the next release. Very stress-free way of doing things, so I can stress more with all the other things in life.

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  • kravemir
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    Originally posted by armetuz View Post
    Why does anybody need an old-style distros like Debian when there are really good rolling distros like Arch Linux?
    It's all about needs, costs and risks involving higher costs.

    ​​​​​Majority of users just need a working tool which provides needed functionality. Upgrading comes with time cost, and risks of breakage. But, upgrading doesn't always provide any benefit. So, rolling release is an extra cost, which doesn't provide any benefit.

    Exception is gaming, where having the latest GPU drivers usually helps a lot with performance. But, gamers aren't a majority.

    ​​​​​​

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  • debiangamer
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    Originally posted by pmorph View Post
    Right, but release cycle of debian stable is still quick enough to avoid that becoming a real problem.
    For example, the Xfce desktop is old and buggy in Debian stable and that is a big problem. Xfce 4.12 spams errors to the .xsession-errors file and wears your solid state drive.

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  • pmorph
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    Originally posted by debiangamer View Post

    This way you lost support for your hardware and software and bisecting a problem comes harder. Nobody has the resources to test code with every possible hardware/software combination.
    Right, but release cycle of debian stable is still quick enough to avoid that becoming a real problem.

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  • debiangamer
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    Originally posted by pmorph View Post
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    Once I have everything set up the way I want, "new stuff" coming in would likely be just a distraction. .
    This way you lost support for your hardware and software and bisecting a problem comes harder. Nobody has the resources to test code with every possible hardware/software combination.

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