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  • winecooler5
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    I would feel it will be released in mid-august.

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  • scottishduck
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    Fedora team are aiming for 8.1 to release EPEL (and then rpmfusion will work) so I think 8.1 will be the point I use RHEL as my main desktop.

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  • bash2bash
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    CentOS is so perfect, it auto-heals itself and doesn't have any downtime. It will also solve hardware problems and will power on its own server. I am on permanent vacation.

    If I can't run CentOS, I'll go back to OS/2

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  • torsionbar28
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    Originally posted by bash2bash View Post
    well said and fair.

    I do what I can and a few of them have indeed paid RHEL subscriptions. Unfortunately reality settles and most people are not willing to pay. I try to balance the scales in a different way, by contributing patches/code, by giving my support to others and by promoting CentOS to kids/students.
    I believe your client's perspective on this is not congruent with most of the business world. This has nothing to do with 'contribution' or 'caring about the people'.

    For a time, I was attempting to convince my clients to use CentOS - they refused and demanded RHEL instead. The reason being, they cannot afford any extensive downtime, so having the 24/7 technical support from Red Hat is very much worth it to them. While I can generally solve just about any of their RHEL problems (I have RHEL7 CSA), there has been the occasional one (usually traced back to a bug) where I've had to pull all-nighters with Red Hat Support to get things straightened out. I'm now a RHEL believer, as nobody knows everything, and nobody can work 24/7, so having vendor tech support is a must for any business-critical deployment. What happens when the system goes down, and you're away on vacation? Does your client wait for you to return before resuming their business operations??
    Last edited by torsionbar28; 07-24-2019, 10:26 PM.

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  • kgonzales
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    Originally posted by bash2bash View Post
    well said and fair.

    I do what I can and a few of them have indeed paid RHEL subscriptions. Unfortunately reality settles and most people are not willing to pay. I try to balance the scales in a different way, by contributing patches/code, by giving my support to others and by promoting CentOS to kids/students.
    They do not pay because they do not care about the people who work on the software. Of course, plenty of corporations are the same. It's a shame but not surprising.

    Thank you for helping people see the path.

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  • bash2bash
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    well said and fair.

    I do what I can and a few of them have indeed paid RHEL subscriptions. Unfortunately reality settles and most people are not willing to pay. I try to balance the scales in a different way, by contributing patches/code, by giving my support to others and by promoting CentOS to kids/students.


    Originally posted by kgonzales View Post

    Instead of waiting, you could advise your clients to contribute to free and open source software by purchasing RHEL, so that Linux and other open source engineers can get paid to do their work. Or you could encourage them to continue not contributing to free and open source software by having them use CentOS, which does not pay anyone.

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  • kgonzales
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    Originally posted by bash2bash View Post
    Its interesting, how fast RHEL 8.1 is coming along. Maybe some things just didn't go as planned with version 8.0?

    I'm patiently waiting for CentOS 8. I wish they take their time with quality control and release a stable system. I prefer to wait several more months and get another great CentOS than to get something now but have to fix endless amounts of packages over and over again.

    I use CentOS extensively on several major projects, including travel OTA systems, workflow CMS for HR businesses and various other things, like an e-shop that handles Bitcoin payments. I am waiting for CentOS 8, so I can migrate everything to TLS 1.3.
    Instead of waiting, you could advise your clients to contribute to free and open source software by purchasing RHEL, so that Linux and other open source engineers can get paid to do their work. Or you could encourage them to continue not contributing to free and open source software by having them use CentOS, which does not pay anyone.

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  • mroche
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    Originally posted by bash2bash View Post
    Its interesting, how fast RHEL 8.1 is coming along. Maybe some things just didn't go as planned with version 8.0?

    Red Hat is aiming for a 6 month minor version release cadence during the full support phase[0] of the product's life-cycle. It's a new scheduling system, likely to help align themselves with the OpenShift and CoreOS release schedules for cloud providers.

    Cheers,
    Mike

    [0] https://access.redhat.com/support/po...upport_2_Phase
    Last edited by mroche; 07-24-2019, 02:33 PM.

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  • You-
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    I think the .1 release of any major RHEL version is quick, around 6 months after general availability of the .0. AFAIK further minor releases are not so fast, having a release cadence of between 12 and 18 months.

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  • bash2bash
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    Its interesting, how fast RHEL 8.1 is coming along. Maybe some things just didn't go as planned with version 8.0?

    I'm patiently waiting for CentOS 8. I wish they take their time with quality control and release a stable system. I prefer to wait several more months and get another great CentOS than to get something now but have to fix endless amounts of packages over and over again.

    I use CentOS extensively on several major projects, including travel OTA systems, workflow CMS for HR businesses and various other things, like an e-shop that handles Bitcoin payments. I am waiting for CentOS 8, so I can migrate everything to TLS 1.3.

    Leave a comment:

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