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Originally posted by heliosh View PostDebian testing and unstable are still using a 4.19 kernel, since more than half a year.
Yes, I know how to get a recent kernel.
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Originally posted by DoMiNeLa10 View PostFirst of all, I really miss him here, and the forum feels dead without him. Also, Debian tries to be "universal", not a server distro.
You can't be stable and bleeding edge at the same time, no matter what Arch fans tell you.
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Originally posted by YorkieOl View PostOk, linux isn't exactly a games machine, but 32bit support covers more than "just games". Taking it away hurts users that want/need it. Bad move ubuntu..
Being on mint, theres a debian edition and at my level, its probably a better choice (for me) to progress with linux and avoid ubuntu's mess.
Back to my thoughts on debian, maybe this is just the time to push this distro. Debian could do well from ubuntu's poor decisions..
As for the 32bit libs, don't worry. 99.99% of what is Ubuntu actually comes from Debian. Someone will just respin the same 32bit Debian packages as a PPA for Ubuntu and life will go on as usual.
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Originally posted by skeevy420 View PostLol. These recent Debian arguments are all based on one's personal view of what "Stable" means.
The closest to that is "minimal package churn with security updates with minimal changes".
What you are talking about is "the level of stability different people are fine with".
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostThat's why Debian Testing exists.
You can't be stable and bleeding edge at the same time, no matter what Arch fans tell you.
Arch Testing > Debian Experimental
Arch Stable > Debian Unstable
Manjaro Testing > Debian Testing
Manjaro Stable > Debian Stable
The difference is that the Arch/Manjaro side takes a month or three to get from the top to the bottom of the list, not a nine months to year like Debian. 17, 18 years ago Debian taking that long didn't bother me because software wasn't released as fast as it is now. These days software evolves at a much faster rate than Debian is traditionally used to making it not a good choice for my desktop needs.
Anyhoo, that's how I view the Manjaro/Arch relationship in Debian terms. CLI-only to Fluxbox; probably won't have any issues with Arch. Use a major DE like Gnome or KDE and you'll be glad you have Manjaro's extra layer of testing involved. The more you do and use, the more testing you should want and likely need.
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
Stable is "does not break".
The closest to that is "minimal package churn with security updates with minimal changes".
What you are talking about is "the level of stability different people are fine with".
EDIT: One could argue that you just defined LTS, for example.Last edited by skeevy420; 08 July 2019, 09:01 AM.
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