Debian 10.0 "Buster" Now Available - Powered By Linux 4.19, GNOME + Wayland

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Debian 10.0 "Buster" Now Available - Powered By Linux 4.19, GNOME + Wayland

After a long day of preparations, Debian 10.0 "Buster" is now available as planned with the CD/DVD images having just hit the mirrors...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...-10.0-Released

[waxhead]

Congratulations to Debian withe the release!

Debian is really the universal operating system just as advertised.
Since I started using Debian in 2006 it has been a pure trouble free joyride!

[tildearrow]

Congratulations to Debian withe the release!

Debian is really the universal operating system just as advertised.
Since I started using Debian in 2006 it has been a pure trouble free joyride!

I hate the package format...

[Imout0]

BUUUSTEEEERRRRR!!!!

BEAMMMMMMm!!!

[JoshuaAshton]

Congratulations to Debian withe the release!

Debian is really the universal operating system just as advertised.
Since I started using Debian in 2006 it has been a pure trouble free joyride!

if you enjoy outdated software and drivers that make nothing work, sure!

[waxhead]

if you enjoy outdated software and drivers that make nothing work, sure!

And what exactly makes software outdated?! You can't compare a program to milk that you need to throw away after a certain date. Debian buster is fairly up to date, and the testing repo is more than bleeding edge enough for most users anyway. If you can't wait a month or two (and in some cases less) to get the latest and greatest then you obviously value stability less than shiny. Debian is not a toy - it's for getting real work done!

[JoshuaAshton]

And what exactly makes software outdated?! You can't compare a program to milk that you need to throw away after a certain date. Debian buster is fairly up to date, and the testing repo is more than bleeding edge enough for most users anyway. If you can't wait a month or two (and in some cases less) to get the latest and greatest then you obviously value stability less than shiny. Debian is not a toy - it's for getting real work done!

> And what exactly makes software outdated?! You can't compare a program to milk that you need to throw away after a certain date.
I can and will make that comparison. Software is updated for a reason. [cont. after next quote...]

> you obviously value stability less than shiny
No, I value having up to date software that has fixes and better support -- of which won't reach Debian until some dumb neckbeard thinks that because something is over 6 months old it is now ""stable.""
Old != Stable -- they don't even test this shit, they just think that because it's old it must be good.

> Debian is not a toy - it's for getting real work done!
I mean, they're launching with 3/4ths of a year old kernel for Christ's sake, the latest MinGW on there uses GCC 6 FROM 2016!
I literally *cannot* work with this given my work entails a) graphics and b) something compiled with MinGW.

What do you define as ""real work""?

[skeevy420]

> And what exactly makes software outdated?! You can't compare a program to milk that you need to throw away after a certain date.
I can and will make that comparison. Software is updated for a reason. [cont. after next quote...]

> you obviously value stability less than shiny
No, I value having up to date software that has fixes and better support -- of which won't reach Debian until some dumb neckbeard thinks that because something is over 6 months old it is now ""stable.""
Old != Stable -- they don't even test this shit, they just think that because it's old it must be good.

> Debian is not a toy - it's for getting real work done!
I mean, they're launching with 3/4ths of a year old kernel for Christ's sake, the latest MinGW on there uses GCC 6 FROM 2016!
I literally *cannot* work with this given my work entails a) graphics and b) something compiled with MinGW.

What do you define as ""real work""?

#define REALWORK "shovel operator"

[skeevy420]

And what exactly makes software outdated?! You can't compare a program to milk that you need to throw away after a certain date. Debian buster is fairly up to date, and the testing repo is more than bleeding edge enough for most users anyway. If you can't wait a month or two (and in some cases less) to get the latest and greatest then you obviously value stability less than shiny. Debian is not a toy - it's for getting real work done!

When you need things like LLVM 9 for AMDGPU optimizations, or, holy shit, Mesa newer than 18.3...ROFL...Debian is going to suck for gaming.

[andyprough]

if you enjoy outdated software and drivers that make nothing work, sure!

If you can't make Debian work, you might as well just give up on computing altogether. That's a sad comment.