Raspbian Based On Debian 10 Offering Up Some Performance Improvements For Raspberry Pi

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Raspbian Based On Debian 10 Offering Up Some Performance Improvements For Raspberry Pi

Alongside this week's announcement of the Raspberry Pi 4, the Raspberry Pi Foundation also released a new Raspbian operating system release that is re-based from Debian 9 Stretch to the soon-to-be-released Debian 10 Buster. In benchmarking of these new and old Raspbian releases on a Raspberry Pi 3 Model B Plus, there are performance gains to find even if not jumping to the Raspberry Pi 4.

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=28011

[AsuMagic]

That combined with the Pi 4 seems like a nice day for the Pi...

[tedder]

On one hand I'm very curious how a 4GB Pi4 compares against x86 processors, and on the other the Pi is beyond the point of desperately needing any storage hardware better than SD cards and a power bus that doesn't sag to undervoltage so easily. Of course neither of those are easy at the price point :/

[schmidtbag]

On one hand I'm very curious how a 4GB Pi4 compares against x86 processors, and on the other the Pi is beyond the point of desperately needing any storage hardware better than SD cards and a power bus that doesn't sag to undervoltage so easily. Of course neither of those are easy at the price point :/

I'm not sure if the RPis can take advantage of the UHS class SD cards, but those actually have some pretty good performance.
As for power sagging, sometimes it's easier to just get a powered USB hub.

[Guest]

I'm not sure if the RPis can take advantage of the UHS class SD cards, but those actually have some pretty good performance.
As for power sagging, sometimes it's easier to just get a powered USB hub.

Considering that there are SBCs with full-size PCIe ports, IO on rpi is depressing. I've been extremely disappointed with these, as even older models have enough juice to work as a storage server, yet they don't have sufficient IO to even handle mechanical hard drives over the network.

Oh, and don't get me started with 3B+ with it's gigabit ethernet over USB 2.0.

[flux242]

Oh, and don't get me started with 3B+ with it's gigabit ethernet over USB 2.0.

with 3b+ they have even managed to put the Bluetooth chip on the console rxtx pins. As the result - no console unless BT chip is disabled. I could never understand why so many noise around this shitty hw

[schmidtbag]

Considering that there are SBCs with full-size PCIe ports, IO on rpi is depressing. I've been extremely disappointed with these, as even older models have enough juice to work as a storage server, yet they don't have sufficient IO to even handle mechanical hard drives over the network.

Oh, and don't get me started with 3B+ with it's gigabit ethernet over USB 2.0.

Most of those SBCs are substantially larger and more expensive. The Pi is trying to retain the original form factor as best it can. I'd argue the form factor and board layout is more important than PCIe slots (for the Pis specifically, not SBCs in general).

I do think it'd be nice if they released a "next gen form factor" that does accommodate more modern features.

[Guest]

Most of those SBCs are substantially larger and more expensive. The Pi is trying to retain the original form factor as best it can. I'd argue the form factor and board layout is more important than PCIe slots (for the Pis specifically, not SBCs in general).

I do think it'd be nice if they released a "next gen form factor" that does accommodate more modern features.

Form factor doesn't rule out the possibility of providing a bus fast enough to accommodate for proper gigabit Ethernet, and maybe even USB 3.0. I understand that trying to cram in a PCIe port would require a larger board, but it's not the only way to improve the situation.

[linuxjacques]

Form factor doesn't rule out the possibility of providing a bus fast enough to accommodate for proper gigabit Ethernet, and maybe even USB 3.0. I understand that trying to cram in a PCIe port would require a larger board, but it's not the only way to improve the situation.

Have you heard of the 4B ? It has real gigabit Ethernet and USB 3.0. And up to 4GiB DRAM.

[edwaleni]

For those weeping about the use of SD on Pi's, there are plenty of sites that outline how to get the boot moved to a USB drive. I tested it out on the 3B and it worked great and was much more responsive.

So I am sure moving the boot to a USB3 flash drive on the 4B will provide yet more performance.

The Pi firmware has to remain on the SD card, but everything else including the swap goes to the USB. It really does help.