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  • CentOS 8.0 Is Looking Like It's Still Some Weeks Out

    Phoronix: CentOS 8.0 Is Looking Like It's Still Some Weeks Out

    For those eager to see CentOS 8.0 as the community open-source rebuild of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.0, progress is being made but it looks like the release is still some weeks out...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...ill-Work-To-Do

  • #2
    Why doesn't Red Hat just develop RHEL in a CentOS-friendly way, kinda like how openSUSE has easy packaging options to remove openSUSE trademarks? Both are owned by Red Hat, so it's not like it's the competition or anything.
    Should they fear that CentOS canibalizes RHEL, they could still develop RHEL in a CentOS-friendly way and just delay the CentOS release by one or two months.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
      Why doesn't Red Hat just develop RHEL in a CentOS-friendly way, kinda like how openSUSE has easy packaging options to remove openSUSE trademarks? Both are owned by Red Hat, so it's not like it's the competition or anything.
      Should they fear that CentOS canibalizes RHEL, they could still develop RHEL in a CentOS-friendly way and just delay the CentOS release by one or two months.
      Why should they? There are already companies who contribute nothing at all to open source who use CentOS at scale and ensure that they not only do not contribute financially to open source but contribute no human effort to it either.

      Why should Red Hat make it easier for these entities to use CentOS?

      SuSE has almost nothing to lose. If they fail, someone else will just buy them and keep them around.

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      • #4
        Everyone who uses CentOS contributes market share to the RHEL ecosystem, increasing their visibility and relevance to the larger IT and GNU/Linux world. One might reasonably suppose this is the reason why RedHat sponsored CentOS in 2014. That said, by very definition, it's not RedHat's "job" to create CentOS; that's CentOS'. It's been five years since RHEL 7 and CentOS 7 were released. A few months shouldn't really matter. Many operators are probably best served by waiting for 8.1 and letting other people do the beta testing, and unfortunately systemd has only dug its unholy claws deeper into the OS. u__u

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        • #5
          wonder if CENTOS8 will be released with more up to date Packages that RHEL8.1 will get?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Anvil View Post
            wonder if CENTOS8 will be released with more up to date Packages that RHEL8.1 will get?
            Obviously not. CentOS is a straight rebuild of RHEL

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
              Why doesn't Red Hat just develop RHEL in a CentOS-friendly way, kinda like how openSUSE has easy packaging options to remove openSUSE trademarks? Both are owned by Red Hat, so it's not like it's the competition or anything.
              Should they fear that CentOS canibalizes RHEL, they could still develop RHEL in a CentOS-friendly way and just delay the CentOS release by one or two months.
              Red Hat does not dictate the timelines for the CentOS release. The CentOS group that works for Red Hat is actually entirely independent of RHEL engineering by design so it remains a community focused group. Red Hat has made it easier to rebrand the release however there are other engineering challenges in rebuilding CentOS which is just a side effect of how RHEL is built. In this release, it includes for instance, modularity. CentOS for good reasons wants to use its own infrastructure to do this and that takes time.


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              • #8
                Originally posted by RahulSundaram View Post

                Obviously not. CentOS is a straight rebuild of RHEL
                would make more sense if they did IMO

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Anvil View Post

                  would make more sense if they did IMO
                  The whole point of CentOS is to be a free clone of RHEL. Shipping different packages would mean possibly being incompatible, and therefore explicitly against the goals of the project.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Anvil View Post

                    would make more sense if they did IMO
                    On the contrary, If users cannot rely on CentOS being binary compatible with RHEL all the way, CentOS's core value proposition is lost. It would make sense to do this at all. Any modifications like the work that the different SIGs do will always remain optional

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