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100+ Benchmarks Between Clear Linux vs. Arch-Based Manjaro Linux - Summer 2019 Tests

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  • #21
    Last time I checked Clear Linux, it needs way more polish for mainstream desktop usage (exfat, unrar and other helpful packages were missing). Also Chromium with VAAPI patches applied is a must-have and wasn't available at that time. The new installer was nice to work with so hopefully they are moving in the right direction.

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    • #22
      Interesting to see manjaro in front at IO - that would be the last area i would expect clear linux to lose out xD

      And for the graph: i REALLY like it - excellent way to have an overview in a 1on1-benchmark!

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      • #23
        Does it matter that Clear Linux used performance scaling governor, while Arch used powersave?

        -> Just checked a few benchmarks on this page done with those, and it may explain some part of the gap.

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        • #24
          I like the new graph, that avoids going through pages of bar plots. However, you can only visualize two things at a time. If you would like to put multiple distribution at a time, I suggest that you take one distro as reference (i.g. clear) point and all the other distro show the same plot as you did (+ or - x% in comparison to the reference).
          Last edited by b8e5n; 06-16-2019, 07:16 AM.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by boxie View Post
            Michael I really like the new graph. As for suggestions -
            • Render as SVG with a direct link to the open benchmarking result (i.e the test name in the first column links to the test result itself)
            • hover text (if you can in SVG?) with the actual results per row
            • Adding the geometric or harmonic averages at the bottom for a summary, (with a little bit of padding to distinctly separate it from the body of results
            • Does it render error bars?
            The actual graph is SVG, just for this article used a screenshot since OpenBenchmarking.org didn't re-base to that new code yet.

            Hover text unfortunately isn't reliable since for how SVG embedding is done to serve cross-domain and allowing fallback to PNG images in old browsers and such, under Chrome that means putting SVG inside an <img> tag where you then lose out on the ability to hover and such. Or just telling people with non-SVG you won't get results anymore.
            Michael Larabel
            http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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            • #26
              Originally posted by b8e5n View Post
              I like the new graph, that avoids going through pages of bar plots. However, you can only visualize two things at a time. If you would like to put multiple distribution at a time, I suggest that you take one distro as reference point and all the other distro show the same plot as you did (+ or - x% in comparison to the reference).
              Larger comparisons will still be on multiple pages.
              Michael Larabel
              http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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              • #27
                Originally posted by -jK- View Post
                Does it matter that Clear Linux used performance scaling governor, while Arch used powersave?

                -> Just checked a few benchmarks on this page done with those, and it may explain some part of the gap.
                No, I did an article looking at that before "trying to make Ubuntu perform like Clear Linux" and only explained a minor bit of the difference, just like the CFLAGS only did as well.
                Michael Larabel
                http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                • #28
                  The new graph looks quite good!

                  I'd also be interested in error bars if they are significant.

                  I guess that star plots could probably convey the same idea, so could line graphs. Which brings me to the following:
                  Have you considered using the same graph, but flipped by 90 degrees? It could lead to some possible vertical-space savings.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
                    The new graph looks quite good!

                    I'd also be interested in error bars if they are significant.

                    I guess that star plots could probably convey the same idea, so could line graphs. Which brings me to the following:
                    Have you considered using the same graph, but flipped by 90 degrees? It could lead to some possible vertical-space savings.
                    Flipping it 90 degrees would run into issues unless having horizontal scrolling so same issue. Due to being space constrained to like 900px width for the site layout.
                    Michael Larabel
                    http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                    • #30
                      Michael the new two-way graphic display is AWESOME! After about a decade seeing your articles I finally signed up just to say THANK YOU :-)

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