CentOS Celebrating Its 15th Birthday As They Prepare For CentOS 8.0

[torsionbar28]

Pretty sure Red Hat will be releasing RHEL 8 @ Summit 2019. It's been in beta long enough, and my sources say it's ready to ship now, but it's so close to Summit time they're saving the big announcement for the event. Makes sense to me. Looking forward to it, we have 100+ RHEL servers at work that will need upgrading soon.

Boom, called it!

[bash2bash]

I prefer CentOS over ubuntu, because of several reasons:

1) better file/directory structure that represents a better unix experience (to me at least). Ubunty & Debian seem like the files are placed all over the place at random, hard for me to find config files under /etc.

2) strict package management. while many distros try and add as many packages as they can, I prefer a more strict approach. Fewer packages with more strict guidelines about quality and license requirements.

3) CentOS goes hand-in-hand with the Fedora desktop. I use Fedora for all my development stations and workstations, while CentOS is on the servers. Since their eco-system is the same base, I can navigate between them as if it was one system. Same file names, same positions, similar packages.

4) RedHat has been solid behind RHEL and Fedora, at least so far before IBM took over. Now the future is unknown, its possible IBM will decimate RedHat and its eco-system

why bother with centos when they are perfectly fine (and not archaic) ubuntu lts and SLES/Sled?

[szymon_g]

why bother with centos when they are perfectly fine (and not archaic) ubuntu lts and SLES/Sled?

[skeevy420]

I can confirm the "revert to default launch settings" and I'll also add that the fucker is resetting Group Policy changes to default (which is BAD, you don't dare fucking revert admin-mandated settings).

Didn't break anything apart from that, on my home "gaming rig" or my work laptop (newish HP probook). Still migrated my work laptop to Tumbleweed + LTS kernel 4.19 from OBS because VMWare can't handle latest kernels.

All I know is that when it worked, 10 wasn't that bad with Classic Shell (now Open Shell Menu). Maybe it was my BIOS system, something to do with Arch, something with GRUB, I dunno, but it did not handle bootloader updates well at all and it was the first time I had to use BCDEdit since the early XP era and actually use it regularly .

Both Arch and 10 had their own disks and 10 liked to overwrite the MBR on the Linux disk and not the Windows disk...and it seemed impossible to find out why because the it gives helpful hints like -- "Updating 10%: Don't turn off the power like a fucktard" & "Updating 47%: I'm about to jump to 100% and reboot 47 times before I FUBAR the system". It was very "fun" having to use both Linux and Windows recovery disks to fix both my OSs after major 10 upgrades.

I didn't even realize CentOS was as old as it is since it has almost always been there since I've been a Linux user (18 years now). I've never really given it that much of an interest since my focus has always been on desktop work and bleeding edge stuff for gaming whereas they're more of a stable server base. What's funny is where I come across CentOS outside of Phoronix and the general Linux community -- porn site error screens .

[starshipeleven]

Every major named 10 Pro update, like "Creators", broke my bootloader, I had two different updates that broke the internet from working, every update (major or minor) would change my settings and default launch settings (how many times do I have to say Firefox and not Edge)...other than my games just working, there was nothing about Windows 10 that I actually liked enough to deal with all its issues.

I can confirm the "revert to default launch settings" and I'll also add that the fucker is resetting Group Policy changes to default (which is BAD, you don't dare fucking revert admin-mandated settings).

Didn't break anything apart from that, on my home "gaming rig" or my work laptop (newish HP probook). Still migrated my work laptop to Tumbleweed + LTS kernel 4.19 from OBS because VMWare can't handle latest kernels.

[skeevy420]

I suggest to look for Windows Enterprise LTSB 2016, it's basically what Windows should have been, and will be supported until 2026. They changed the name for the future equivalents of it.

Too bad that you need businness volume license contracts or the usual (lllegal) KMS loaders you use to activate also normal Windows.

LTSB not being an option with my 7 Pro key is a big reason that I don't run Windows 10 anymore...that and how 10 handles updates in general...I just do not trust Windows 10 Pro to handle a major upgrade without breaking something.

Every major named 10 Pro update, like "Creators", broke my bootloader, I had two different updates that broke the internet from working, every update (major or minor) would change my settings and default launch settings (how many times do I have to say Firefox and not Edge)...other than my games just working, there was nothing about Windows 10 that I actually liked enough to deal with all its issues.

I ended up (re)installing Windows 10 7 times in 2 years due to horrible updates and random stuff breaking.

As far as I'm concerned, 10 Pro should be called "Advanced Home User" and "LTSB" is what Pro should really be.

[starshipeleven]

That is not totally not true. In some cases, over down without question. If it wasn't for the stupid telemetry, by default on online crap in Windows 10, it would be by far the best Windows ever. Yeah, not Posix or Unix like, but is darn good otherwise.

I suggest to look for Windows Enterprise LTSB 2016, it's basically what Windows should have been, and will be supported until 2026. They changed the name for the future equivalents of it.

Too bad that you need businness volume license contracts or the usual (lllegal) KMS loaders you use to activate also normal Windows.

[starshipeleven]

Windows NT 3.51 remains the best.

You meant Windows 7.

Why Windows 3.51? Because whilst waiting for the PowerPC port, the Windows team ended up bug-fixing it for almost a year; making it pretty damn well tested and stable!

Wow, bug-fixing for a year. What about Win7 that got basically put in bug and security patch only and remained like that for nearly a decade.

[bash2bash]

Too bad for gnome3 and its horrible interface

[kpedersen]

it would be by far the best Windows ever.

The best Windows ever... means that it is still a far way off from actually being good

But nope, because of the telemetry and other junk, Windows NT 3.51 remains the best.

Why Windows 3.51? Because whilst waiting for the PowerPC port, the Windows team ended up bug-fixing it for almost a year; making it pretty damn well tested and stable!

Yes, it may not have a modern C or C++ compiler available to it... but there is no reason why one couldn't be developed