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  • Arch Linux Prepares For Python 3.7, Drops OpenJDK 9

    Phoronix: Arch Linux Prepares For Python 3.7, Drops OpenJDK 9

    Arch Linux developer Jelle van der Waa has provided an update concerning recent Arch updates...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...-1-August-2018

  • #2
    Both have already happened in Debian unstable.

    OpenJDK-9 removal: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugr...cgi?bug=896007

    Python3.7 transition: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugr...cgi?bug=902582

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    • #3
      Originally posted by monraaf View Post
      Both have already happened in Debian unstable.

      OpenJDK-9 removal: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugr...cgi?bug=896007

      Python3.7 transition: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugr...cgi?bug=902582
      Yeah I was really disappointed seeing this taking so long ... I was guessing Arch is faster with these kind of things.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by monraaf View Post
        The automated response to that made me chuckle. Silly robot.

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        • #5
          It would be nice to Arch move to GitLab instead of GitHub.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Kemosabe View Post

            Yeah I was really disappointed seeing this taking so long ... I was guessing Arch is faster with these kind of things.
            Thing is, ArchLinux does not have a "stable" version to fall back into. So potentially disrupting changes like these that may affect a lot of other packages tend to take a little longer to make sure no big issues appear. This is actually the best way to do these things for a distro like Arch. I don't see the need to rush stuff like Python 3.7 or Java 10. It is not like developers of those languages absolutely have to use the latest versions right nao, and if they do, they can manually install them themselves.

            By the way, Michael covering Archlinux, the world is about to end. LOL.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by monraaf View Post
              Both have already happened in Debian unstable.

              OpenJDK-9 removal: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugr...cgi?bug=896007

              Python3.7 transition: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugr...cgi?bug=902582
              This is very different, since Arch doesn't do parallel versions of python3. The python 3.7 updated involved rebuilding (and in many cases fixing) over 1100 packages.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TemplarGR View Post

                Thing is, ArchLinux does not have a "stable" version to fall back into. So potentially disrupting changes like these that may affect a lot of other packages tend to take a little longer to make sure no big issues appear. This is actually the best way to do these things for a distro like Arch. I don't see the need to rush stuff like Python 3.7 or Java 10. It is not like developers of those languages absolutely have to use the latest versions right nao, and if they do, they can manually install them themselves.
                Sometimes impossibility to install arbitrary packages from "testing" or "staging" makes me sad (pacman can't deal with dependencies in such cases, see e.g. "partial upgrades are unsupported"). If it was possible, it would noticeably improve QA, because often there are peoples who willing to install and test a latest package, but not to migrate whole system onto "testing/staging".

                E.g. I'm watching for Python package to appear in main repository since 3.7 was released. I would definitely try the 3.7.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by HarlemSquirrel View Post
                  It would be nice to Arch move to GitLab instead of GitHub.
                  Why? I don't see any major difference between those two

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by PLum View Post

                    Why? I don't see any major difference between those two
                    GitLab can be self-hosted for free and supports IPv6.

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