Jesus, the politics and bureaucracy of open-source software are sometimes very bewildering to me. Stuff like this shouldn't be decided by committees. This should be designed and tested in a user study by a UX excerpt. That's like asking your local politicians about their opinion on nuclear reactors...
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Fedora To Decide What To Do About GNOME 3.28's Auto-Suspend Default
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Originally posted by onicsis View PostBetter, if Auto-Suspend will be a standardized as a power management feature for all desktop environment, but conditioned by various events, and should not be happening if some task running in background torrents, downloads, long compilations or a movie playing in full screen and many others. An during OS install or at first login user should be questioned anyway to know that setting exist. Users can find Auto-Suspend a useful feature if is implemented sufficiently flexible for here/his daily current needs. Alongside coupled with messages via DBus (before Auto-Suspend happens) or something to trigger some Auto-Save operations if needed just in case for a power outage.
Video players also have a switch to inhibit the suspend, but AFAIK there is a bug where they do not reset the counter, so once they stop inhibiting the suspend, if the timer is at zero, due to the bug a machine will go straight into suspend without giving the user any chance of making another choice.
A user can also change the defaults.
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Yes, auto suspend could be annoying - the best solution in my opinion could be opt-out option during Gnome3 first start after installation/update (the same silly window than now teaching user how to use mouse or something
Also it could be good thing. It is 2018 and Linux distributions still has many issues with suspend/hibernate. Hibernate in Fedora is even disabled by default and it is not user friendly to enable it.
Perhaps suspend enabled by default will force companies to fix it. Intel already declared that they will look at it.
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Originally posted by You- View PostVideo players also have a switch to inhibit the suspend, but AFAIK there is a bug where they do not reset the counter, so once they stop inhibiting the suspend, if the timer is at zero, due to the bug a machine will go straight into suspend without giving the user any chance of making another choice.
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Originally posted by Danniello View PostYes, auto suspend could be annoying - the best solution in my opinion could be opt-out option during Gnome3 first start after installation/update (the same silly window than now teaching user how to use mouse or something
Also it could be good thing. It is 2018 and Linux distributions still has many issues with suspend/hibernate. Hibernate in Fedora is even disabled by default and it is not user friendly to enable it.
Perhaps suspend enabled by default will force companies to fix it. Intel already declared that they will look at it.
As Fedora itsn't really geared for newbies, eg Fedora 27 installer locks up on boot with Nvidia devices without the kernel setting nouveau.runpm=0, letting the users find out their hardware is buggy instead of disabling suspend is probably a better option. Then they could point the users at how to update their BIOS/UEFI, rewrite ACPI DSDT if needed, etc to actually get the system working properly. And above all else annoy the companies that produce POS hardware.
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Originally posted by slacka View PostOn the one hand, I love the idea of smarter power defaults for desktops. On the other hand, I was hit by this after I upgraded and ran an overnight test build on a Workstation. Fortunately, this was just a test, but it did set me back a day.
Maybe there should be some kind of brief 1st run setup, like Windows that configures these things after asking the user?
If they would want to ask the user, then they wouldn't have to do auto-doing stuff.
No wonder I don't like any distro that is using Gnome 3 by default.
And saying that this is because a EU regulation, this is bullshit.
We don't see TVs music players, light bulbs, cars auto-shutting themselves off.
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Originally posted by Danny3 View PostAnd saying that this is because a EU regulation, this is bullshit.Last edited by DerCaveman; 08 April 2018, 10:48 AM.
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