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  • phoronix
    started a topic Fedora 28 Beta Has Been Delayed

    Fedora 28 Beta Has Been Delayed

    Phoronix: Fedora 28 Beta Has Been Delayed

    It's time for the Fedora 28 release dance and to place your bets if F28 will be released on time or is another Fedora release challenged by release delays...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...8-Beta-Delayed

  • iavael
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    Originally posted by RahulSundaram View Post

    The dates are called preferred targets.
    That’s why delays are expected and are not a problem.

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  • RahulSundaram
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    Originally posted by iavael View Post

    Ok, even if we don’t call it “deadline”, but “schedule” (fedora call it this way itself), missing a schedule is still a delay.
    The dates are called preferred targets.

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  • iavael
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    Originally posted by nanonyme View Post

    Can you even call it a deadline with all honesty? Seems more like "this is an optimistic miminum date, we can't do it any faster than this". The only point of saying there's an expected release date is it allows you to be able to determine when people should stop making breaking changes/any changes.
    Ok, even if we don’t call it “deadline”, but “schedule” (fedora call it this way itself), missing a schedule is still a delay.

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  • RahulSundaram
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    Originally posted by nanonyme View Post

    Can you even call it a deadline with all honesty? Seems more like "this is an optimistic miminum date, we can't do it any faster than this". The only point of saying there's an expected release date is it allows you to be able to determine when people should stop making breaking changes/any changes.
    This is indeed correct. The dates are by design more fluid than a fixed release cycle. They aren't really deadlines and adjustments to the dates as and when needed based on the release criteria are part of the plan.

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  • nanonyme
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    Originally posted by Vistaus View Post
    in b4 "they should be like Debian and just release it when it's done instead of having a fixed deadline" posts
    ITYM Ubuntu. Debian will afaik also postpone release on blockers

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  • nanonyme
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    Originally posted by iavael View Post

    You set the deadline, you miss it. That’s what people call a delay.

    P.S. I actually don’t dislike Fedora release engineering style.
    Can you even call it a deadline with all honesty? Seems more like "this is an optimistic miminum date, we can't do it any faster than this". The only point of saying there's an expected release date is it allows you to be able to determine when people should stop making breaking changes/any changes.

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  • Vistaus
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    in b4 "they should be like Debian and just release it when it's done instead of having a fixed deadline" posts

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  • iavael
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    Originally posted by mattdm View Post
    I know this seems to be like shouting into the void, but I'll repeat: nothing has been "delayed" and we're not having particular "challenges" with this release.
    You set the deadline, you miss it. That’s what people call a delay.

    P.S. I actually don’t dislike Fedora release engineering style.

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  • andyprough
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    Originally posted by mattdm View Post
    Fedora integrates tens of thousands of packages with hundreds of thousands (millions?) of changes every release.
    As does every other major distro. And many minor distros.

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