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  • #11
    The large title bars on a small screen can be annoying. However, there is a handy GNOME shell extension called Pixel Saver that addresses this concern. When a window with no title bar decorations is full-screened (for example firefox) the title bar completely vanishes and the close button merges into the menu bar. It's very nice. If it detects a window that does leverage that extra title bar space (for example Builder) then the extension is smart enough to never hide the title bar. I use it on any screen 1080p or smaller.

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    • #12
      Gnome has potential to be the perfect desktop for me. I have been using it for a long time now but iv had enough. After so long time since the release of gnome 3 you still can't adjust the top bar size. And i can't even change the title bar size without having to mess around with css files. They removed tray icons so we need separate extensions for every piece of software we want to have a tray icon. I finally see why people are getting frustrated over it. Needing extensions for the most basic features is the most annoying thing ever. Every other desktop have customization by default why can't gnome have it too? seems like such a step backwards to me.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Drago View Post
        If you have 4K monitor maybe, otherwise having empty title bar, even for full screen window is not OK. Having app menus in the title bar again is super convenient and sleek.
        Tried GNOME Shell, too much wasted vertical space and ugly.
        You haven't tried Gnome in years, have you? They have been moving away from standalone window borders to app-specific CSDs. For example Nautilus, Gedit, Totem and Gnome Music all sport title bars that have added functionality in them in place of separate toolbars. The menubar concept is long gone, actually. It is either a button in the app or a global button in the Gnome system bar. (Yes, it's pretty fucked up trying to guess which functionality resides in which menu.)

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        • #14
          As if anyone other than Red Hat employees had voice on GNOME. Muh brand needs to be protected at all costs.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by totex71 View Post
            Gnome has potential to be the perfect desktop for me. I have been using it for a long time now but iv had enough. After so long time since the release of gnome 3 you still can't adjust the top bar size. And i can't even change the title bar size without having to mess around with css files. They removed tray icons so we need separate extensions for every piece of software we want to have a tray icon. I finally see why people are getting frustrated over it. Needing extensions for the most basic features is the most annoying thing ever. Every other desktop have customization by default why can't gnome have it too? seems like such a step backwards to me.
            Yeah, default gnome adwaita title bar height is ridiculous.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by uid313 View Post
              Unfortunately not even the recently released Ubuntu 18.04 with GNOME 3.26 seem to support colored emojis. 😭
              Hmm... my emoji are colored using gnome shell without doing anything special.

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              • #17
                Actually, I think Ubuntu 17.10 looks better than Unity ever did. So I think switching to a GNOME 3 base was the right move. And most important of all, the minimize/maximize/close buttons are on the top right of windows by default. There may be valid ergonomic reasons to change those buttons around, but I've been working with them there for over twenty years between Windows and most Linux desktops. The need to tweak every Unity install for every user on the system (since my wife and kids prefer the buttons on the right too) was an annoyance.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Darakus View Post
                  The large title bars on a small screen can be annoying. However, there is a handy GNOME shell extension called Pixel Saver that addresses this concern. When a window with no title bar decorations is full-screened (for example firefox) the title bar completely vanishes and the close button merges into the menu bar. It's very nice. If it detects a window that does leverage that extra title bar space (for example Builder) then the extension is smart enough to never hide the title bar. I use it on any screen 1080p or smaller.
                  Additionally, the Firefox 57 build in Fedora 27 updates-testing carries a CSD (-like) patch that mostly moves the tabs into the title bar. WIth 'default' theme, it looks like a proper, native app now without needing to install a ton of extensions (htitle, etc) as required previously.

                  Other apps that don't use CSD (gnome-terminal, etc) can still benefit from pixel saver. Personally, I don't bother -- I'm using another theme with slightly thinner title bars, and don't mind them always being on screen.

                  Originally posted by totex71 View Post
                  Gnome has potential to be the perfect desktop for me. I have been using it for a long time now but iv had enough. After so long time since the release of gnome 3 you still can't adjust the top bar size. And i can't even change the title bar size without having to mess around with css files. They removed tray icons so we need separate extensions for every piece of software we want to have a tray icon. I finally see why people are getting frustrated over it. Needing extensions for the most basic features is the most annoying thing ever. Every other desktop have customization by default why can't gnome have it too? seems like such a step backwards to me.
                  I've been using gnome basically since 2002, with a very brief foray into Unity during the early shell days. I eventually left Ubuntu to get a better gnome experience. So I'm a few years removed from any Unity experience. But didn't Unity also disable tray icons a few years ago? If I recall, they had a small whitelist of certain apps they'd allow, but dropped the rest.

                  TBH, tray icons were shit, and I'm glad they're dead.

                  Besides, in terms of gnome customization, they do have extension support. Re-install the systray via "topicons" if you want.

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                  • #19
                    Yes, Adwaita top bars too darn vertically wide! Default font, kind of ugly! Want another one not mentioned? The top bar, them rounded edges, would look way more clean with a straight line edge to edge. Yes, I know there is an extension:

                    https://extensions.gnome.org/extensi...aight-top-bar/

                    But seriously, Gnome gets all haughty taughty about all their fancy design work, yet I feel they miss the mark on so many levels. Oh, and default icons. Hello, 2007 calling! Wait a second, on more - those god awful animations, like the icons shooting out of the corners when you go into overlay/app mode or whatever. I'm cool with the transitions between workspaces, etc. But the animations settings in GSettings and/or dconf was all or nothing last time I looked.

                    Sorry, but just my opinions. That all said, there are things I do like about Gnome 3, but there is a lot about default appearance that comes across as amateurish, again just my opinion.
                    Last edited by ehansin; 01 November 2017, 12:03 PM.

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                    • #20
                      Seems like I'm not the only one who thinks that Adwaita's default window decorators are ridiculously tall.

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