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Originally posted by tichunI despise the naming system of KDE applications.
Too much 'K', no spaces between words and some silly words.
It is just to amateurish haha
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Originally posted by schmidtbag View PostI'm aware there ARE applications without generic names, I'm just saying that Windows and Mac have way more generic names than you want to believe.
Also, how exactly do you not realize you're contradicting yourself? Movie Maker and Internet Explorer are titled exactly what they are (albeit, Movie Maker is a bit ambitious of a name). How are those not generic names? Meanwhile, Word, OneNote, Google Drive, iTunes, and (if you know what a cloud is) iCloud are pretty self-explanatory without opening them.
You had many options to defend your argument and you chose those?
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Originally posted by Danny3 View PostSimple names would be much more easier for my parents and newcomers to an OS or DE.
I don't even want to tell what nightmare this is for translators to make it understandable in another language when you have proper nouns.
On KDE it should be something like "Show applications as" in the settings of your Application Menu/Launcher/Dashboard to "Description only".
Being GNOME what it is, they have generic names by default.
It baffles me that the develpers don't understand that while "Writer" is pretty easy for english-speaking people to understand and figure out what it does, it's not so easy for people speaking other languages.
Or you also expect the new people you encounter to be called "blond dude" or "fat dude with tatoos" just because John or Gerard are arbitrary names that don't describe the person that uses them?
I think I remember that in the past I tried to quickly open the terminal in KDE by searching for "Terminal" because I didn't know or cared how the've called it and it failed because it was actually called "Konsole"
And if you excuse me I'd like to have more than 1 application per type, as not all applications have the same feature set.
Anyway, maybe desktop environments' developers will understand this one day and will name the programs that are part of the DE like:
https://blog.qt.io/blog/2005/08/10/o...-applications/
Last edited by starshipeleven; 13 September 2017, 05:40 AM.
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Originally posted by schmidtbag View PostI'm aware there ARE applications without generic names, I'm just saying that Windows and Mac have way more generic names than you want to believe.
Also, how exactly do you not realize you're contradicting yourself? Movie Maker and Internet Explorer are titled exactly what they are (albeit, Movie Maker is a bit ambitious of a name). How are those not generic names? Meanwhile, Word, OneNote, Google Drive, iTunes, and (if you know what a cloud is) iCloud are pretty self-explanatory without opening them.
And how is putting "i" in front of something any better than putting "k" in front of something? So "itunes" is great but "kalarm" is somehow bad?
And KDE has "way more generic names than you want to believe", too, like system settings, words, stage, sheets, kwrite, kruler, labplot, smb5k, etc.
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Originally posted by Vistaus View PostAnd regarding Google Drive: it does sound self-explanatory, although not necessarily for storing stuff in the cloud as a 'drive' is also hardware-related. But the rest I agree with.
Originally posted by TheBlackCat View PostInternet Explorer has been replaced by Edge.
And how is putting "i" in front of something any better than putting "k" in front of something? So "itunes" is great but "kalarm" is somehow bad?
And KDE has "way more generic names than you want to believe", too, like system settings, words, stage, sheets, kwrite, kruler, labplot, smb5k, etc.
Originally posted by Luke_Wolf View PostGreat Goalpost movement... So let's recap:
Goal Post 1: Applications should have no branding and have totally generic names
Goal Post 2: Most applications on Windows have generic names
Goal Post 3: These branded names are self-descriptive, even though they're not the generic name.
Well guess what? If that's now our goalpost most k/g software names are self-descriptive such as KGraphViewer the subject of this article, and K/G software are now okay again.
1. I never said that and I don't necessarily agree.
2. Most applications Windows comes with have generic names. Sure, maybe I should've been more explicit, but the point was there are a lot more generic names than you wanted to believe.
3. I pointed out self-descriptive names in the post before the one you started rattling off programs. That's your fault for not paying attention.
Like TheBlackCat, you are failing to realize that I wasn't whining about generic names for KDE or Gnome, and, I don't really care about having stuff like a K in front.
Chill out and pay attention.Last edited by schmidtbag; 13 September 2017, 11:16 AM.
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Originally posted by GhostOfFunkS View PostWell.. With a proper level of deduplication there would be room for better, generic names.
See how ridiculous that sounds when you put a pro-KDE slant to it. Just as annoying as your childish/trolling comments about Gnome.
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