A Look At The Changes & New Features Of GNOME 3.24

[rtfazeberdee]

Nice review. GNOME had another great development cycle. They moved further ahead of the competition.

Just who are you sucking up to and is it working?

[Shiba]

I'm still personally opposed to the web browser due to it enabling ad-blocking by default and its impact on web publishers

Maybe web publishers should stop abusing users privacy with tracking ads.

[horizonbrave]

am I the only one finding totally annoying the size/height of the windows top bar (title bar?)?.. on laptops it takes way too much vertical estate!

[liam]

While it looks good and it's now stable and feature rich, i really can't adapt to the new paradigm.
I swear i really tried, but it's so frustrating not being able to see all my open apps without having to click anything, or taking twice the steps to do a simple task, or having usefull features shaved off of software like the file browser... you get the point.

For me, all KDE needs to do is grab their start menu and instead of having the bottom tabs horizontaly disposed as they do and place them vertically at the left and voilá! The whole DE gets fixed...

The Gnome devs chose the Apple way: assume the users are computer iliterates...
There are people who like 'simpler' DEs with less stuff to worry about.
I prefer the power to do whatever i want and that means i have to chose a different DE.

This meme really needs to die.
The apple desktop is super powerful, but, ootb, it just works. If you want to script arbitrary actions, you can do it. There's options for terminals, extensions for window management (really slick ones), fantastic battery life and even good performance.
Osx is why i wonder wth gnome is trying to do. It sure as hell doesn't have the post of osx.

[funfunctor]

While I much prefer Plasma's workflow for day to day, the Gnome folks sure are not assing about when it comes to both stability and wayland support.

[ElderSnake]

I also use GNOME Wayland every day. In fact, these days I struggle to use anything else. On the rare occasion a game, usually WINE based like Skyrim, doesn't play nicely with XWayland (mouse issue) I just launch a lightweight X wm like WindowMaker in a separate TTY and play the game there.

[boffo]

While it looks good and it's now stable and feature rich, i really can't adapt to the new paradigm.
I swear i really tried, but it's so frustrating not being able to see all my open apps without having to click anything, or taking twice the steps to do a simple task, or having usefull features shaved off of software like the file browser... you get the point.

For me, all KDE needs to do is grab their start menu and instead of having the bottom tabs horizontaly disposed as they do and place them vertically at the left and voilá! The whole DE gets fixed...

The Gnome devs chose the Apple way: assume the users are computer iliterates...
There are people who like 'simpler' DEs with less stuff to worry about.
I prefer the power to do whatever i want and that means i have to chose a different DE.

About what I'm missing in gnome-wayland: Yast (Opensuse), so it's not a gnome fault.
You don't need to click on anything, just move the mouse to the top left corner to see open apps (I use this trick in KDE too, always), or a feature that many don't know is alt+tab (available on any os, to swich from the the most used apps).
The thing that I don't like about kde is that:
1) the wayland implementation is still unusable/unstable to me
2) they decided to implement a server side implementation instead of a client side, because of inconsistent decorations. Yes, I still don't like it, because I think that the top window bar shouldn't be just used to close an app and to move it, but also to have other functionalities. In firefox I removed the top bar because it's useless, if I have to move a window I just press super in gnome or alt in kde and I click on the window to move it (I also to to autohide the url bar in firefox, most of the time it's not used).
3) The default icons, I don't like them, they are too apple ios like mixed with mac os 1.0 (but I can easily use another set, aka easy to fix, not a real problem).

NOTE:
I think that the top bar to move an app is an old way to use application, in fact to move a window it would be better to just click and hold any part of the window without a text that it can't be selected or it can't be edited. Even an Icon if clicked and holded should behave as a move the window. KDE is a Swiss knife, this option should be implemented and be at least optional. This feature are useful if you use a touchpad on a notebook or if your notebook has a touch screen (Yes on some laptops touchpads are just bad).

IN SHORT
Wayland doesn't work on kde.

WHAT I MISS FROM KDE
kscreen!!! All the other little functionalities that I rarely use them, but damn when I need them I end up using the console with gnome.

There is no perfect solution, but we just get used to a particular solution.

[linuxgeex]

I assume you meant warmer/redder colors? Also I assume the word "about" is a typo and should be omitted?

This is one of those cases where the industry naming is kinda ridiculous and I don't begin to blame Michael for getting it backwards, because it's the industry that really has it backwards.

8000 Kelvin is considered "cool" and 3500 Kelvins is considered "warm". Well, lol, "cool" is a hell of a lot hotter than "warm" and the 4500 kelvin difference between them would evaporate you if it were applied to your living environment's temperature.

[ThanosRules]

Can nautilus and gedit run with superuser rights under wayland or not yet?

[Okki]

While it looks good and it's now stable and feature rich, i really can't adapt to the new paradigm.
I swear i really tried, but it's so frustrating not being able to see all my open apps without having to click anything, or taking twice the steps to do a simple task, or having usefull features shaved off of software like the file browser... you get the point.

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