While I much prefer Plasma's workflow for day to day, the Gnome folks sure are not assing about when it comes to both stability and wayland support.
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Originally posted by nomadewolf View Post
While it looks good and it's now stable and feature rich, i really can't adapt to the new paradigm.
I swear i really tried, but it's so frustrating not being able to see all my open apps without having to click anything, or taking twice the steps to do a simple task, or having usefull features shaved off of software like the file browser... you get the point.
For me, all KDE needs to do is grab their start menu and instead of having the bottom tabs horizontaly disposed as they do and place them vertically at the left and voilá! The whole DE gets fixed...
The Gnome devs chose the Apple way: assume the users are computer iliterates...
There are people who like 'simpler' DEs with less stuff to worry about.
I prefer the power to do whatever i want and that means i have to chose a different DE.
The apple desktop is super powerful, but, ootb, it just works. If you want to script arbitrary actions, you can do it. There's options for terminals, extensions for window management (really slick ones), fantastic battery life and even good performance.
Osx is why i wonder wth gnome is trying to do. It sure as hell doesn't have the post of osx.
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Originally posted by horizonbrave View Postam I the only one finding totally annoying the size/height of the windows top bar (title bar?)?.. on laptops it takes way too much vertical estate!
If you compare Nautilus and Caja (MATE file manager), the Nautilus top bar takes three times less space...
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Originally posted by nomadewolf View Post
While it looks good and it's now stable and feature rich, i really can't adapt to the new paradigm.
I swear i really tried, but it's so frustrating not being able to see all my open apps without having to click anything, or taking twice the steps to do a simple task, or having usefull features shaved off of software like the file browser... you get the point.
For me, all KDE needs to do is grab their start menu and instead of having the bottom tabs horizontaly disposed as they do and place them vertically at the left and voilá! The whole DE gets fixed...
The Gnome devs chose the Apple way: assume the users are computer iliterates...
There are people who like 'simpler' DEs with less stuff to worry about.
I prefer the power to do whatever i want and that means i have to chose a different DE.
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Originally posted by ThanosRules View PostCan nautilus and gedit run with superuser rights under wayland or not yet?
The applications must make use of Polkit (formerly known as PolicyKit).
I don't know whether Nautilus and Gedit support that yet.
I use Ubuntu 17.04 (daily) and unfortunately Nautilus and Gedit (also GNOME Terminal) are old versions, not 3.24.
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Originally posted by uid313 View PostBy design Wayland does not allow graphical applications to run via sudo.
The applications must make use of Polkit (formerly known as PolicyKit).
I don't know whether Nautilus and Gedit support that yet.
That said, there are still problem with that approach. If I'm installing some piece of 3rd-party software that has a GUI installer, the installer often needs to be run as root, or as whatever user the app will run as. And I doubt the likes of Oracle are in a hurry to update their tools for modern desktop compatibility...
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Originally posted by ThanosRules View PostCan nautilus and gedit run with superuser rights under wayland or not yet?
Nautilus and gedit allow reading and writing files owned by root using the admin:// URI in GVFS, which does local privilege escalation only for the file/directory involved, instead of running your whole app, the plugins, the extension modules, etc. as root.
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