Pidgin 2.12 Instant Messenger Client Released

[Michael]

@Michael: article name says 1.12 in the text is 2.12 everywhere.

It's 2.12, thanks.

[LinAGKar]

Now, when are they gonna add the new Facebook chat support?

[agurenko]

I think Singal is more open?

Yeah, but it's almost impossible to get people there

[guildem]

Now, when are they gonna add the new Facebook chat support?

Never, Facebook chat isn't open anymore, and this won't change imo

[boxie]

Yeah, but it's almost impossible to get people there

for me, the migration to signal for my contacts is slow but constant

[ChrisIrwin]

I think Singal is more open?

Signal is more open, in that all components are open source. However, the "desktop" app is a chrome app (that platform is EOL), some features are quirky (per-conversation notification settings on all clients).

Additionally, while all the source is open, you can't make a third-party client to connect to the signal servers. You'll have to run your own servers for your own client. And there's no federation, so effectively you have to use the official signal clients if you want to talk to signal users.

Would I use signal? Yeah, I do. It's not perfect, and I've got gripes with it, but it's the best option I've been able to convince other people to use.

[Mavman]

@all

What are your opinions about qtox ( https://qtox.github.io/ ) client and tox ( https://tox.chat/ ) protocol???

they're all full OpenSource, but i would really like to ear some opinions

[bug77]

Funny how we talk about open over here while everybody I know moves to either FB messenger or iMessage. And I have neither

[Serafean]

@all

What are your opinions about qtox ( https://qtox.github.io/ ) client and tox ( https://tox.chat/ ) protocol???

they're all full OpenSource, but i would really like to ear some opinions

All reinventing the wheel.
We have had encrypted chat since 2004 on ANY protocol. [1] Granted the encryption key size might need some revision now.
We do have an extensible IM protocol that supports group chat, federation and other bells and whistles (like enabling collaborative document editing[2]). It's called XMPP. [3] And it enables the user to chose his client of choice. (My #1 criterion for using anything)
For big groupchat we have IRC. Also since almost forever.

Fragmentation like is happening now (and has been happening since forever) is the reason IM will never be a first class citizen anywhere : no interoperability, walled gardens everywhere.
We got lucky with e-mail...

</rant>

[1] https://otr.cypherpunks.ca/index.php#downloads
[2] http://scummos.blogspot.cz/2013/06/g...g-in-kate.html
[3] https://xmpp.org

[guildem]

A new xkcd that is perfect for this thread