Emacs 25.1 Released With Cairo Drawing, Better Network Security

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Emacs 25.1 Released With Cairo Drawing, Better Network Security

For those not running the new, feature-packed Vim 8.0, GNU Emacs 25.1 was released on Saturday with several new features and improvements...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GNU-Emacs-25.1

[ThrowAway3000]

I'm still using Gentoo, is Emacs any good? Better network security sounds interesting, but not enough to switch from Gentoo.

[koneu]

I'm still using Gentoo, is Emacs any good? Better network security sounds interesting, but not enough to switch from Gentoo.

I'd stick with Gentoo if I were you. At least its package manager ships Vim.

[koneu]

OT: There are more text editors nowadays than Vim and Emacs Michael

[Kibou]

OT: There are more text editors nowadays than Vim and Emacs Michael

...but none that matter.

[uid313]

...but none that matter.

Vim and Emacs have steep learning curves.

nano, gedit and Atom are good.

[ssokolow]

Vim and Emacs have steep learning curves.

nano, gedit and Atom are good.

A learning curve is the relationship between time and knowledge, so a "steep learning curve" means you learn quickly. [/pet_peeve]

[c117152]

Vim and Emacs have steep learning curves.

nano, gedit and Atom are good.

Too many missing features.

[sdack]

A learning curve is the relationship between time and knowledge, so a "steep learning curve" means you learn quickly. [/pet_peeve]

Where does Emacs have a steep learning curve? It can be used like any other, simpler text editor. Only when you need to do more can it also do more. This isn't a hurdle of emacs - it's a mountain of features that come with it and you don't need to know them all.
Now I could make an argument against vim and of how unintuitive it can be for beginners, but then again is vim a very common editor and can be found on the smallest devices, which makes it an editor worth getting into.
Both, emacs and vim, are necessary evils for when there is no custom-tailored solution around, meaning, when there isn't an intelligent GUI frontend available for example. Not sure where this leaves nano, but it has its place among its fans, too.

The one thing I could blame emacs, vim & Co. for is that these are working way too good and are the reason why many tasks are missing good GUI frontends.

[Guest]

Too many missing features.

Kate is feature rich. Much more than nano and gedit.