PulseAudio Adds Memfd Transport Support

[Rubble Monkey]

Am I the only one who believes in the KISS principle? The smaller a program the easier it is to fix bugs, that should be obvious.
How long did it take to make PulseAudio usable I wonder, and will it stay that way?
Maybe we should just call the opposite of the KISS principle the Lennart Poettering principle.
Does anyone remember why LibreSSL got started? Cutting the unused crap out of OpenSSL made it more secure and stable!

[pal666]

...People who use Arch are crazy then? That's pretty funny.

i'm pretty sure there are plenty people using arch with pulseaudio. removing pulseaudio forever due to long ago fixed problem somewhere else is crazy

[SaucyJack]

because it just works

so you had broken distro but you prefer to remove perfectly working software instead. why not distro? it seems that pulseaudio is only hated by crazy people

...People who use Arch are crazy then? That's pretty funny.

[SaucyJack]

What about alsa's dmix? Does it degrade too?
If you have hardware mixing, can't you just have pulseaudio and your music player running at the same time?
If you don't have hardware mixing, why not just use pasuspender, since your other programs won't be able to play sounds anyway?

AFAIK dmix isn't used, just hardware mixing. But why deal with crap sounding audio everywhere else like games? As for not having hardware mixing... I haven't found a computer yet that couldn't play multiple audio streams with just ALSA so why bother with PA?

[pal666]

Whatever, You can have your opinion.

i stated fact, not opinion. you have opinion that interface is bad. i have no idea whether this is true. maybe it is bad and in need of replacement. but it demonstrably can be worked around

[pal666]

this is a stupid idea.
there is nothing wrong with ringbuffers, while this adds overhead for absolutely no benefit.

the only one insanely stupid here is you. there is nothing preventing implementing ringbuffer over memfd. memfd is a way to pass mapping to this ringbuffer between processes without central registry/mounted filesystem and disallow killing server by truncating mapping.

[duby229]

it is demostrably false. most drivers bugs were fixed.

Whatever, You can have your opinion. It's still long past due for something proper.

[pal666]

You blame ALSA for the fact that PA uses the interface in ways that ALSA isn't designed to handle. There is nothing an ALSA driver can do about it

it is demostrably false. most drivers bugs were fixed.

[sjukfan]

Can you actually use ALSA with multiple programs at once without special hardware?
I'm never gonna move away from PulseAudio if I can't get all my programs to work with its audio AND have multiple applications that can run at once.

I think this is some old story that lives on long after it's been fixed. I haven't had any problem with this in the last five six years and I only use alsa with whatever soundcard that comes on the motherboard. In Debian Lenny back in 2009 I had to do some trick to initialise the it but since 2010 it's been just plug and go.

[pal666]

if A works perfectly

but it doesn't
it has featureset of cavemen