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Firefox 43 Now Officially Available, But GTK3 Gets Disabled
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Does GTK3 mean that Firefox will finally have CSD (tabs in titlebar) by default? That's awesome!!! I've been waiting this for so long!!!
It had that in Windows version for years but Firefox for Linux was second class citizen. Better later than never!
I'm still using Firefox even though it is lagging behind other browsers but news like this makes me happy! It proves that Firefox is not dead, it just takes more time to embrace cool new underlying technologies!Last edited by monraaf; 15 December 2015, 04:53 PM.
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Originally posted by Marc Driftmeyer View PostAre you twelve, or just think like a twelve year old? I'll take GNOME 3.18+ over any KDE product. I use Qt 5 products, but the KDE stuff is 99% junk. There isn't a single KDE app I care to use. If you want to see how C++ can leave a bad taste in your mouth just look at KDE on top of Qt.
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Originally posted by schmidtbag View PostThat's irrelevant - enterprise hardware won't have a reason to run firefox, and if they did, firefox would be outdated along with everything else.
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Originally posted by schmidtbag View PostFor me personally, most GNOME apps are too simplified and restricting.
Good thing about GNOME3 apps is that they somehow managed to simplify interface and intuitively add new features at the same time!
Gnome Files (Nautilus) and Gedit are such apps. They look so clean and simple but they are still advanced and keep getting new features with every release. I really like intelligent design and brave decisions. They proved that apps can be advanced without being ugly. It is bringing something fresh that Linux never had. GTK3 is attracting new users who care about every detail. It's a pleasure to use such apps. That's why I like it.
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Originally posted by monraaf View PostIt is easy just to keep adding new features by crowding interface or just to dumb down apps by removing features.
Good thing about GNOME3 apps is that they somehow managed to simplify interface and intuitively add new features at the same time!
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If that was the reason, then it is the most stupid ever.
Really? For the user with only the gtk2 installed?
Of course, considering how much high the gtk3 cost is, I can understand.
Who remains on old software can remains on Firefox 42 as well.
Or, at the least, do the opposite: the default is gtk3, however for the minority with specific needs, just use the option to compile for gtk2. Not the other way around!
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Originally posted by schmidtbag View PostQt != KDE. But even if that were the case, your response isn't really any less childlike than the one you're criticising. Besides, there are plenty of KDE-specific tools that are better than GTK, and vise versa. Both DEs have their own set of dedicated apps that outperform the others'. For me personally, most GNOME apps are too simplified and restricting.
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Although the GTK3 port is ready to ship, the update experience will be poor for users without GTK3 installed. We don't know what proportion of users that would be...
Code:pacman -Qi gtk2 [B]chromium[/B] [B]ekiga[/B] exo [B]firefox[/B] flashplugin gtk-engine-murrine gtk-engines gtk-sharp-2 gtkglext gtkmm gtkspell lib32-gtk2 libglade libxfce4ui [B]thunderbird[/B] [B]tor-browser-en[/B] wxgtk2.8
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Originally posted by schmidtbag View PostThat's irrelevant - enterprise hardware won't have a reason to run firefox, and if they did, firefox would be outdated along with everything else.
I think the guys did the sane thing here: they didn't know how many users would be impacted, so they took the safe route.
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