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Firefox 43 Now Officially Available, But GTK3 Gets Disabled

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  • smitty3268
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    Originally posted by magika View Post
    Jeesus christ! If user's distro is not stale shit like RHEL or some LTS fossil, which is probably not, since user is able to install FF43 on it, then GTK3 is present and will be pulled in by package manager with FF update.[/FONT][/COLOR]
    I don't know. If you're running a modern distro wouldn't you just grab FF through your package manager from the distro repositories?

    RHEL or some ancient system actually seems like the one place people might want to download the binaries straight from mozilla, because the distro wouldn't be packaging it directly anymore.

    Fedora has been packaging it with GTK3 for a while now.

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  • bug77
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    Originally posted by monraaf View Post
    Good thing about GNOME3 apps is that they somehow managed to simplify interface and intuitively add new features at the same time!
    Your intuition is far better than mine. I have serious learning to do to find my way around Gnome3.

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  • horizonbrave
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    Originally posted by Dea1993 View Post
    i've just update, and on my notebook firefox 43 use gtk3.
    furthermore, now use ffmpeg, and now html5 support on youtube is finally complete (we can select every resolution)
    please, you forgot which OS you are using. Thanks

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  • bug77
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    Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
    That's irrelevant - enterprise hardware won't have a reason to run firefox, and if they did, firefox would be outdated along with everything else.
    I didn't mean to imply anything else. I just had an issue with the OP calling these "stale shit". After all, these are the only distros that are actually stable, even if they're not for home use.
    I think the guys did the sane thing here: they didn't know how many users would be impacted, so they took the safe route.

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  • Cape
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    Although the GTK3 port is ready to ship, the update experience will be poor for users without GTK3 installed. We don't know what proportion of users that would be...
    Running plain gnome3 on a desktop computer:
    Code:
    pacman -Qi gtk2
    chromium  ekiga  exo  firefox  flashplugin  gtk-engine-murrine gtk-engines
    gtk-sharp-2  gtkglext  gtkmm  gtkspell lib32-gtk2  libglade  libxfce4ui 
    thunderbird tor-browser-en wxgtk2.8

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  • Marc Driftmeyer
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    Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
    Qt != KDE. But even if that were the case, your response isn't really any less childlike than the one you're criticising. Besides, there are plenty of KDE-specific tools that are better than GTK, and vise versa. Both DEs have their own set of dedicated apps that outperform the others'. For me personally, most GNOME apps are too simplified and restricting.
    You have a reading comprehension issue. I said KDE on top of Qt 5 is the problem. Qt5 apps by themselves are fine. KDE tends to fuglify and overengineer on top of Qt.

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  • valeriodean
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    If that was the reason, then it is the most stupid ever.
    Really? For the user with only the gtk2 installed?
    Of course, considering how much high the gtk3 cost is, I can understand.
    Who remains on old software can remains on Firefox 42 as well.
    Or, at the least, do the opposite: the default is gtk3, however for the minority with specific needs, just use the option to compile for gtk2. Not the other way around!

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  • magika
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    Originally posted by monraaf View Post
    It is easy just to keep adding new features by crowding interface or just to dumb down apps by removing features.

    Good thing about GNOME3 apps is that they somehow managed to simplify interface and intuitively add new features at the same time!
    How about intuitively not removing existing popular features?

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  • monraaf
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    Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
    For me personally, most GNOME apps are too simplified and restricting.
    It is easy just to keep adding new features by crowding interface or just to dumb down apps by removing features.

    Good thing about GNOME3 apps is that they somehow managed to simplify interface and intuitively add new features at the same time!
    Gnome Files (Nautilus) and Gedit are such apps. They look so clean and simple but they are still advanced and keep getting new features with every release. I really like intelligent design and brave decisions. They proved that apps can be advanced without being ugly. It is bringing something fresh that Linux never had. GTK3 is attracting new users who care about every detail. It's a pleasure to use such apps. That's why I like it.

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  • eydee
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    Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
    That's irrelevant - enterprise hardware won't have a reason to run firefox, and if they did, firefox would be outdated along with everything else.
    They don't care. Only a few years ago IE6 was still the most used browser in the word. And not because of home users of course.

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