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  • #11
    Does this have the ability to render icons on the desktop yet? If it does, some of the code might help other DE's porting to Wayland (such as GNOME) that do not now have the ability to render icons on the desktop in a Wayland session

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    • #12
      Originally posted by jrch2k8 View Post

      KDE didn't release it and they warned even cats/dogs about staying in the 4 series for stability, it was distros that didn't gave a shit with a flying fuck as they did with the first 4 series and started offering plasma sessions without much warning. blame your distro not KDE. (note Arch and gentoo don't count since those are bleeding edge and you have to install whatever you like)
      Yeah, yeah it's always the distros' fault. We heard the same story during the whole 4.x fiasco. Now distros are finally starting to ship the nearly 2 year old plasma 5, at version 5.4 no less, and everyone is complaining how buggy it is - and we're hearing the same argument about how it's the distros fault.

      What would be nice from KDE is CLEAR unambigous communication on what is considered "stable." But I don't think they even know.
      eggbert
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      Last edited by eggbert; 06 November 2015, 04:40 PM.

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      • #13
        I am with you eggbert. Team KDE should have EXPLICITLY told the distros NOT to use it and then told the press when any distro did use it that that distro was being irresponsible to their users especially if the distros didn't label a particular KDE 5 spin as ALPHA SOFTWARE - TEST PURPOSES ONLY in big bold print on their download links.

        Not "Fresh".....not "New".....but ALPHA and or DANGEROUS.

        Lots of noobs out there get a VERY BAD taste in the mouth about Linux not realizing what a phreak and geek hacker world Linux is but then go on to download something called "LATEST RELEASE" with no knowledge that it is ALPHA software and then it blows up in their face.

        And how can they know what an "LTS" release is? Enough with the phreak and geek speak. Say "STABLE" and "UNSTABLE" Use PLAIN WORDS, phreaks and geeks. That can prevent a lot of problems from the get go when it comes to Linux acceptance by the great unwashed Windows and Mac users looking for an alternative.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Jumbotron View Post
          *snip*
          I'm going to be very very blunt here...
          WHY ARE YOU HERE?

          given your rather obvious distaste for geeks and geek culture, your presence makes no sense in one of the more hard core geek groups that is OSS. Furthermore the only thing you've done on this particular forum is lie, FUD, and tantrum So just what exactly are you doing here?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by eggbert View Post

            Yeah, yeah it's always the distros' fault. We heard the same story during the whole 4.x fiasco. Now distros are finally starting to ship the nearly 2 year old plasma 5, at version 5.4 no less, and everyone is complaining how buggy it is - and we're hearing the same argument about how it's the distros fault.
            The problem is that the way they do versioning is unclear. Most projects draw a clear line between stable and development, along with clearly identified betas and release-candidates as development draws closer to stable. KDE doesn't... their policy of late seems to be that a ".0" release is an alpha, and they'll keep doing ".1" increments until they decide they're stable enough for people to use. Not a lot of clarity for anyone...

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            • #16
              Originally posted by eggbert View Post

              Yeah, yeah it's always the distros' fault. We heard the same story during the whole 4.x fiasco.
              i managed to read the warnings from the KDE devs at the time and bide by them by not installing 4.0. Anyone who didn't has only themselves to blame.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Jumbotron View Post
                I am with you eggbert. Team KDE should have EXPLICITLY told the distros NOT to use it and then told the press when any distro did use it that that distro was being irresponsible to their users especially if the distros didn't label a particular KDE 5 spin as ALPHA SOFTWARE - TEST PURPOSES ONLY in big bold print on their download links.

                Not "Fresh".....not "New".....but ALPHA and or DANGEROUS.

                Lots of noobs out there get a VERY BAD taste in the mouth about Linux not realizing what a phreak and geek hacker world Linux is but then go on to download something called "LATEST RELEASE" with no knowledge that it is ALPHA software and then it blows up in their face.

                And how can they know what an "LTS" release is? Enough with the phreak and geek speak. Say "STABLE" and "UNSTABLE" Use PLAIN WORDS, phreaks and geeks. That can prevent a lot of problems from the get go when it comes to Linux acceptance by the great unwashed Windows and Mac users looking for an alternative.

                if you couldn't work that out for yourself, more fool you.

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                • #18
                  Slightly OT but how des pulseaudio work with wayland? What happens to the PULSE_SERVER attribute stored in the X11 root window?

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                  • #19
                    So what is the progress of wayland on Kubuntu (KDE) and PLASMA?

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Luke_Wolf View Post
                      I'm going to be very very blunt here...
                      WHY ARE YOU HERE?

                      given your rather obvious distaste for geeks and geek culture, your presence makes no sense in one of the more hard core geek groups that is OSS. Furthermore the only thing you've done on this particular forum is lie, FUD, and tantrum So just what exactly are you doing here?
                      That's all you have to say? Personal attacks are just a sign of a lack of arguments.

                      Jumbotron is right and has a very valid point. The way KDE handles their release policy is a mess and it's not the first time. We had the same situation with KDE 4.

                      One would expect a little bit more professionalism from the geek community, after all they call themselves experts. The development cycle of KDE however does not show any signs of professional work, it is a mess and one should be allowed to point that out - geek or no geek.

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