MATE Desktop 1.10 Released, Offers Experimental GTK3 Support

[Krejzi]

I had issues with GTK+-3.16 apps, e.g. evince on MATE 1.8 (using Numix theme, in case that matters).

I don't even have a Numix theme on MATE 1.10. Is that a standard MATE theme or what? But, given that MATE 1.8 was released quite some time ago and GTK+3 breaks some theming features every minor release, I suspect it's an issue with a theme when used with GTK+3.16.

[magika]

I don't even have a Numix theme on MATE 1.10. Is that a standard MATE theme or what? But, given that MATE 1.8 was released quite some time ago and GTK+3 breaks some theming features every minor release, I suspect it's an issue with a theme when used with GTK+3.16.

Menta is standard MATE theme, which is gtk2 only, so gtk3 apps are using standard theme, which is Adwaita as of 3.16.

[Krejzi]

Menta is standard MATE theme, which is gtk2 only, so gtk3 apps are using standard theme, which is Adwaita as of 3.16.

MATE 1.10 ships GTK+3 themes too. If you look at the downloads, you can see there are multiple mate-themes for a corresponding GTK+3 version: 3.8, 3.10, 3.12, 3.14 and 3.16. I use Menta and I don't see any issues with GTK+3 apps.

[Luke]

This is the real release. Back in April, the mate-desktop package version 1.10 first appeared in http://pub.mate-desktop.org/releases/1.10/ . That is a desktop utility package, NOT a metapackage that pulls in the rest of the desktop. Possibly due to the significance of packages like "ubuntu-desktop" which are such metapackages, not just Phoronix but many, many websites thought that was the release of all of MATE 1.10, resulting in a premature release announcment that spread all over the Internet and even third party websites offering the "mate-desktop" package for download as though it was the entire desktop environment. Don't blame Michael for this one, the whole Linux press jumped too soon due to the package name.

[magika]

MATE 1.10 ships GTK+3 themes too. If you look at the downloads, you can see there are multiple mate-themes for a corresponding GTK+3 version: 3.8, 3.10, 3.12, 3.14 and 3.16. I use Menta and I don't see any issues with GTK+3 apps.

That makes sense now that they ported stuff to gtk3. But I've just tried 1.10-gtk3 and its too buggy and crashy to be considered usable yet.

[ncopa]

What is the difference between MATE and Cinnamon if it no longer is GTK+3 vs GTK+2?

[magika]

What is the difference between MATE and Cinnamon if it no longer is GTK+3 vs GTK+2?

Cinnamon is basically gnome-shell, nautilus, and mutter forked, sometimes buggier and slower than GNOME3, but feature rich and not crippled.
MATE-gtk3 is gnome2 fork being rewritten with gtk3. That doesn't mean that metacity will suddenly turn into mutter and get hardware acceleration or panels-desktop-whatever will use retarded javascript. Its fast and still feature rich as old MATE, but currently gtk3 version is very buggy.