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  • Bodhi Linux Forks Enlightenment E17

    Phoronix: Bodhi Linux Forks Enlightenment E17

    The Bodhi Linux distribution has forked the Enlightenment project from its E17 release...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...ghtenment-Fork

  • #2
    Not a big surprise. I tried that crap after 5+ years of development and it crashed in a couple of minutes. Someone needs to go back to university.

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    • #3
      The state of E17 in debian jessie/wheezy as well as ubuntu is crap. It freezes and locks. Fortunately I can kill it, and then it continues.
      I never had that with E18 (ppa for ubuntu, recompile it for debian).
      But even in the utter crap state, it is very lightweight, it won't even bog down a machine with 512MB of memory.
      There is a reason that Tizen is build on EFL.

      Most of the enlightenment problems originate from lack of distribution support. It looks more like abandonware in debian/ubuntu, although with PPA's you can get the more stable newer versions.
      I wonder if gentoo has these problems too.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ardje View Post
        I wonder if gentoo has these problems too.
        *Gentoo user here*
        I tried E17 (and E18/19) and never got happy. Part of my problem with E is the binary config. It was just too easy for me to turn it into a non-working state. AFAIR the config tool is just a dialog started in the process of E, it just doesn't start without a running E. Removing the whole config and starting from scratch seems to be the only way out.
        The other problem is the file manager, which also is just a new window in the E process, not an own process. And THAT file manager really made me crazy, because it froze really often... or just crashed right away and took the whole desktop with it (as I said, not an own process...)
        I also had weird issues with the compositor (repainting, artifacts, ...) and enlightenment_open (https-urls got messed up - don't know if this got fixed...). And as the Bodhi lead dev mentioned - I reported those issues and the bugs never got touched by a dev, just ignored, which is no fun for users caring for the software they (want to) use...

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        • #5
          The steps to a care free E experience are:

          1) Install Arch
          2) Install E from the official repos
          3) ????
          4) Profit.

          e17 is ancient.

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          • #6
            so they are trying to bring the sexy back?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
              The steps to a care free E experience are:

              1) Install Arch
              2) Install E from the official repos
              3) ????
              4) Profit.

              e17 is ancient.
              100 % agree.
              I've been using Bodhi Linux in 2.x days and it was very good but ubuntu 12.04 base has shown it's age in 2014
              Then Fedora 20 + Enlightenment for a while but unfortunately with some issues
              Now I've got Arch with E19 and my exiprience is excellent

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              • #8
                Originally posted by energyman View Post
                so they are trying to bring the sexy back?
                I WANNA BE SEXY!

                I still remember the proposals for E17 from over a decade ago. Wierd that such a slow moving project is unstable.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
                  The steps to a care free E experience are:

                  1) Install Arch
                  2) Install E from the official repos
                  3) ????
                  4) Profit.

                  e17 is ancient.
                  "care free" until you run pacman -Syuu and break everything, that is.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by stiiixy View Post
                    I still remember the proposals for E17 from over a decade ago. Wierd that such a slow moving project is unstable.
                    E17 is very stable, hence probably why Bodhi has gone for that version.

                    E18 and E19 are much more recent. I personally run E18.8 on my system, and I don't have any issues with it. Though, I do compile it from source, and with the foundation libraries released at the time. That's just because Debian repos are very slack with E.

                    I did try E19, but it was a bit tough on my graphics card. CPU continually running at a moderate pace. I believe it was related to the new pager, which shows a semi-live representation of all desktops. I think I'll wait until it's optimised a bit more. Maybe try E20 when that's ready.

                    It isn't a slow moving project any more. Releases are planned, and happen multiple times in a year. I guess you can say that stability has suffered because of it, but to be honest, it all feels rock solid to me. Been using various incarnations of E over the last decade, and use it as my work interface. You know something is solid when you're happy to use it at work. Nothing pisses me off more than a buggy interface, when I'm trying to get something done.

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