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Originally posted by ihatemichael View PostI didn't use fedup to upgrade.
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Originally posted by Luke_Wolf View PostUsing yum directly has never been a supported way to move between Fedora versions, it can work, but the official way is to use Fedup or to do a clean install over '/', and in Fedora it's usually best to just clean install and rebuild. It's not Arch where it's a proper rolling release and it's not openSUSE where due to zypper and the OBS the base system is effectively fluid.
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Originally posted by Luke_Wolf View PostUsing yum directly has never been a supported way to move between Fedora versions, it can work, but the official way is to use Fedup or to do a clean install over '/', and in Fedora it's usually best to just clean install and rebuild. It's not Arch where it's a proper rolling release and it's not openSUSE where due to zypper and the OBS the base system is effectively fluid.
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Originally posted by ihatemichael View Post
Upgrading using the yum method described here is not recommended for new users. Use FedUp instead
For upgrades, the recommended upgrade method is the FedUp tool. This section has instructions on using FedUp to upgrade. Although upgrades with yum do work, they are not explicitly tested as part of the release process by the Fedora QA and are not documented in the Fedora installation guide. If you are not prepared to resolve issues on your own if things break, you should probably use the recommended installation methods instead.All opinions are my own not those of my employer if you know who they are.
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Originally posted by Ericg View PostBecause they have this giant disclaimer at the top:
They tell you how to do it so that if you DO do it you know what the hell your doing. But you really should be using "fedup --network (release+1) --product=(nonproduct,workstation,server,cloud)"
Or should I just do a clean reinstall since I've used yum to upgrade?
My Fedora 21 install seems to be working just fine.
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Originally posted by ihatemichael View PostFair enough. I'll use fedup when the time to upgrade to Fedora 22 comes.
Or should I just do a clean reinstall since I've used yum to upgrade?
My Fedora 21 install seems to be working just fine.
1) The safest thing to do is always reinstall from scratch, no matter the OS.
2) If you ARE going to upgrade in-place you should be perfectly fine doing a fedup upgrade, as long as your current install seems to be working fine. They recommend a FedUp upgrade because it automatically pulls in the new GPG keys (so you dont have to) as well as handling any 'complex' upgrade situations that yum/dnf could not reliably handle on its own from a running system.All opinions are my own not those of my employer if you know who they are.
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Originally posted by Luke_Wolf View PostOn an unrelated note, one thing I'd like to see is for the dependency trees to be used to allow downloading and installation to happen in parallel and for installations of unrelated software to occur in parallel, possibly for example installing all the independent depends of a package simultaneously.
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Originally posted by pipe13 View PostHow would this work? Work well, I mean.
Don't have packagekit / yum / dnf put a lock on the rpm database. But then you'd have to load it up with sanity checks to make sure that two transactions didn't break each other. Now, if everything was self contained in the app, aka bundles, then we could probably do this easily.All opinions are my own not those of my employer if you know who they are.
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