CrossOver 14.0 Makes Installing Windows Apps Easier

[akincer]

Strangely, there was a time when it did sort of work... but it's been awhile (years). I know because I had it working under wine way back whenver it was...

I remember. I was sad to see efforts to maintain compatibility with newer versions didn't keep pace. Not knowing the technical specifics, I don't understand why. Seems like I remember reading that some of it was some of the voodoo secret sauce that made device syncing nearly impossible. My hope is that with dwindling market share, Apple actually makes a native client or works with Codeweavers to build compatibility.

Better off not using iTunes (recommended).

I don't. But the folks I'm talking about do and making this recommendation (which I have) is not received particularly well. Their exact words are "as long as I can run iTunes, you can do whatever you want". That's actually become quite the norm in recent years -- people tied to their apps and not their platform.

[Mike Frett]

Well here's the thing... just vanilla wine is nice if you want to install everything into one wine_prefix, however it sucks if you want to run multiple prefixes which is why Q4Wine, PlayOnLinux, and CrossOver exist. The advantage of running multiple prefixes is that it makes wine blow up less often and you can set up your compatibility tweaking on a per-prefix basis.

Yeah that's right. A good example of why someone would want to use CrossOver etc. I don't really have a problem with CrossOver, just no need for it like you decribed. I have used it and it works very well. But I can't say I like PlayOnLinux very much, much of the Game list is almost ALL GOG Games and very little if anything for people who have hard copies on CD/DVD.

[cjcox]

iTunes and wine

Anyone that follow WINE closely know how close they're getting to iTunes support? There's been more than a few people that were great candidates for Linux but for iTunes and dual booting or virtualization just wouldn't work.

Strangely, there was a time when it did sort of work... but it's been awhile (years). I know because I had it working under wine way back whenver it was...

Wine, like real wine, has good years and bad years....

My personal opinion is that you will never win the iTunes battle. It's a very closed (and expensive) proprietary software system. If it ever does work again, it will be for a very brief period of time. Better off not using iTunes (recommended).

Even if you have a "significant" investment... while sad.... you'll be far better off in the long run if you start moving away from it. Or... just forget about anything that is non-Apple (yes... even Windows really). Sure... back in 1998, perhaps the world still belonged to proprietary closed source houses of evil (like Apple)... but the world has changed dramatically. There are more options and better solutions. Just don't be fooled by the wolf and sheep's clothing. I mean if it looks like Apple is trying to be more "open"... you need to be VERY careful (because it's probably just a ruse). In fact, Apple is far worse than Windows (in general) with regards to interoperability and openness. But both can be very evil.

Choose FOSS first and foremost.... anything else just isn't protected.

But I do like playing with Wine and due to the fact that most companies lack vision, I often times use wine for Microsoft office etc (Word, Excel, Powerpoint and Visio mostly). Before native steam, I used wine (at home) for steam games (note: I have never been a Windows user... but have been a Steam on Linux user for many many years).

And over the years, I've been a big supporter of the work by codeweavers.

[Xilanaz]

Who would buy CrossOver when you have Wine? I mean you can't even get CSMT with CrossOver.

ummmm CSMT comes standard in crossover.... not standard in Wine

[Luke_Wolf]

I have the version of CrossOver they offered for free last year but I rarely use it. I actually find vanilla Wine to be easier, go figure. There is absolutely nothing difficult about installing a Windows game or app via vanilla wine. Right click the exe and select install with Wine; really, how hard is that?.

I think people are getting darn lazy and down right stupid or something.

Well here's the thing... just vanilla wine is nice if you want to install everything into one wine_prefix, however it sucks if you want to run multiple prefixes which is why Q4Wine, PlayOnLinux, and CrossOver exist. The advantage of running multiple prefixes is that it makes wine blow up less often and you can set up your compatibility tweaking on a per-prefix basis.

[curaga]

Did they really use motif in 2005?

[Mike Frett]

Idiotic

I have the version of CrossOver they offered for free last year but I rarely use it. I actually find vanilla Wine to be easier, go figure. There is absolutely nothing difficult about installing a Windows game or app via vanilla wine. Right click the exe and select install with Wine; really, how hard is that?.

I think people are getting darn lazy and down right stupid or something.

[TheBlackCat]

People who tried a trial version and like it more then wine Differences if someone care about:

Comes with one-click installation for Windows applications
Comes with a graphical installer for Windows applications
Comes with Bottles (portable virtual Windows environments)?
Seamlessly integrates with your desktop environment
Is consistently tested against a supported application set
Comes with product support
Price

https://www.codeweavers.com/products/faq/differences/

So in other words, it is basically just q4wine?

[tmpdir]

When it comes to looking at CodeWeavers in particular with a critical eye, it'd be more about which bits they keep closed for their products. But overall I think they've been a pretty good FOSS citizen and have a healthy relationship with WINE upstream (unlike, say, TransGaming).

Overal I got the feeling they are NOT good FOSS citizen, I will not renew my licence when my 12 month's are over.

I've seen some bug discussions with logs and precise reproduction paths an what not a respectable developer could wish for in a bug report. They discarded the bug because the user mentioned he had the same problem in Wine and in Play On Linux. I get that that they want bug reports based on wine, bug discarding when also tested on Play on Linux is on step to far for me. Also an windows licence is cheaper in the long run, although this fact is less important for me.

[FuturePilot]

What the hell is with the Ubuntu 5.10 screenshot?