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  • smitty3268
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    Originally posted by araxth View Post
    P.S. A good thing Mozilla is forked on *nix (Debian's Iceweasel for instance) and i hope they wont implement this piece of crap.
    Please read how it's actually going to work. There's nothing to "implement".

    As plugins today, the CDM itself will be distributed by Adobe and will not be included in Firefox. The browser will download the CDM from Adobe and activate it based on user consent.
    So, when you go to Netflix and it asks you to download the DRM plugin, just say NO, and it won't. Then you won't have any DRM on your machine.

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  • TheLexMachine
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    Originally posted by AJenbo View Post
    Sad that we would still depend on Adobe, who already gave Linux the finger. What about different architectures like ARM and what not?
    Linux is an OS and not an architecture for hardware so I'm not sure what you're asking by bringing up ARM.

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  • DrYak
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    Originally posted by danwood76 View Post
    So we are trading in Flash/Silvershite for HTML5 plus an adobe CDM plugin which is sure to be buggy and non portable.
    Indeed. The whole purpose of HTML5/CSS/Javascript is to have web-site and web-browser all organized around *OPEN STANDARDS*. So anyone is free to jump in and try experimenting/innovating (even if it is as absurd as getting a web-enabled fridge).
    With a propretary CDM plugin, we are back to the whole unportable situation as before.

    I just hope that this time, the CDM will have a *VERY MINIMALISTIC* interface (encrypted data goes in, decrypted data goes out). And will access as few other functionality as possible.
    Just to reduce the amount of things that adobe will very likely manage to fuck up, and thus reduce the attack surface for future drive-by attackers.

    Originally posted by AJenbo View Post
    Sad that we would still depend on Adobe, who already gave Linux the finger. What about different architectures like ARM and what not?
    Let's hope that the interface will be simplistic enough that some other entity could provide a byte-coded (PNaCl? JVM?) alternative that could run on alternate architectures.

    Originally posted by Britoid View Post
    Cracked in 5, 4, 3...
    Indeed, given Adobe's track record regarding security, they are very much likely to fuck up enough that the thing will get reverse engineered.
    (Cf. what's already happened with the predecessor in Flash : RTMPE vs. rtpmdump )
    That's an alternative hope for those (like me) happy enough to live in a jurisdiction where such reverse engineering are authorised.

    The thing that we actually need to hope is that the CDM will be easy enough for Firefox to isolate/jail.
    Adobe is bound to write an exploitable piece of shit.
    Process isolation (as done with Flash currently) and/or running in a restricted VM (PNaCl, JVM) would help mitigiate this kind of problems.

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  • AJenbo
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    Originally posted by hourwatch View Post
    I don't like HTML5 DRM, but is a necessary wrong if html5 wants to continue expanding instead of third party privative plugins. And Firefox has to implement it to not stay behind.
    Sad that we would still depend on Adobe, who already gave Linux the finger. What about different architectures like ARM and what not?

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  • araxth
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    I can understand Mozilla's need to stay in trend when it come with implementing the HTML5 support and so on.

    I can understand blob against opensource too.

    But to use Adobe's DRM technology? Goddam, I can hardly think about a less Linux friendly software supplier. Even Microshit is more approachable in Linux related matters (not necessary OSS but still Linux, see the hypervisor, linux skype and so on).

    Disgusting overall.

    P.S. A good thing Mozilla is forked on *nix (Debian's Iceweasel for instance) and i hope they wont implement this piece of crap.

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  • timofonic
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    Fuck you, Mozilla

    Paraphrasing Linus with Nvidia: Fuck you, Mozilla.

    First they deal in an odd way with Oracle, now they deal with Adobe. What will be the next? Microsoft?

    They are getting more corrupt in each step, giving advantage to propietary software. They are traitors of open source, thanks to them the web will be more closed than ever.

    Why the hell do we need the shitty DRM to play movies? People will rip it and publish the content on torrent sites (HDDVD, Bluray, HDMI... they are all got cracked), this is a pain in the ass to the user that pays for the content. So here they have, less people will find benefit in paying for content.

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  • Britoid
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    Cracked in 5, 4, 3...

    Since it relies on a binary blob, does that mean the DRM provider will be able to choose what platforms we can use it on? So much for an open web.

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  • Nuc!eoN
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    Dammit

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  • danwood76
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    Great,

    So we are trading in Flash/Silvershite for HTML5 plus an adobe CDM plugin which is sure to be buggy and non portable.

    I think it is a loose loose situation for Linux.

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  • hourwatch
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    I don't like HTML5 DRM, but is a necessary wrong if html5 wants to continue expanding instead of third party privative plugins. And Firefox has to implement it to not stay behind.

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