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6-Way Linux Desktop 2D/3D Performance Comparison On Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

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  • razaccour
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    It is what it Is

    Originally posted by Vim_User View Post
    Not really. It basically tells you that Ubuntu's KDE maintainers suck. As you can see, if you use sane settings it is fast as the other DEs.
    I'm not playing the blame game saying it's KDE devs fault. To the user it doesn't matter who's to blame, it is what it is. I agree with you though.

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  • Vim_User
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    Originally posted by razaccour View Post
    So this basically tells me that KDE sucks on Ubuntu.
    Not really. It basically tells you that Ubuntu's KDE maintainers suck. As you can see, if you use sane settings it is fast as the other DEs.

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  • razaccour
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    KDE

    So this basically tells me that KDE sucks on Ubuntu.

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  • Veto
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    Originally posted by Vim_User View Post
    Wait, what? Now it is the fault of KDE developers when Ubuntu maintainers choose defaults that are not sane, because they are guiding them not enough? Are you kidding or should this be a serious comment?
    Seriously? Did you even read the comments in this thread, were clearly was pointed out that Michael once again has not enabled un-redirecting for fullscreen rendering? Do you see the short test from siavashserver that clearly shows that there is no performance difference between KDE and XFCE if you enable that option? And how about the countless posts for every DE benchmark Michael delivers, where exactly this is pointed out?
    Talk about nonconstructive again.
    The headline of the article specifically mentions the benchmark is performed under Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. The point is not to make a particular DE look pretty, but to show what a person installing Ubuntu with the chosen DE can expect. So please tell us, why Michael should fiddle with some obscure settings, which would be unknown to most users before making his benchmarks?

    I see many other constructive posts here, presenting data and narrowing down issues based on Michaels benchmark - moving the world forward. If you believe there is a bug in Ubuntu, you could probably have posted it in Launchpad in less time than spent making derogatory posts here about Michael, Ubuntu and whoever.

    I do not expect any constructive or respectful answer from you - so have a nice life...
    Last edited by Veto; 12 March 2014, 06:13 PM.

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  • GreatEmerald
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    Originally posted by Kemosabe View Post
    I could not reproduce the bad KDE performance on ArchLinux using all available Unigine benchmarks (Tested xfce, fluxbox and latest KDE).

    siavashserver's results also indicate pretty much no difference (0.8% is probably not a statistically significant difference).

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  • Kemosabe
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    I could not reproduce the bad KDE performance on ArchLinux using all available Unigine benchmarks (Tested xfce, fluxbox and latest KDE).

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  • Vim_User
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    Originally posted by Veto View Post
    I personally find the benchmark very interesting. Ubuntu is one of the biggest Linux distros for the average desktop user - whether you like it or not. Furthermore the optimum settings should be default and not require further subtle tweaking. If the DE/WM developers want the best exposure and end user experience they should pay attention to and guide down-stream integration.
    Wait, what? Now it is the fault of KDE developers when Ubuntu maintainers choose defaults that are not sane, because they are guiding them not enough? Are you kidding or should this be a serious comment?
    If you believe one DE is misrepresented you are welcome to elaborate and suggest concrete and specific improvements. Else I am forced to conclude it is just a sad comment for a person posting nonconstructive messages.
    Seriously? Did you even read the comments in this thread, were clearly was pointed out that Michael once again has not enabled un-redirecting for fullscreen rendering? Do you see the short test from siavashserver that clearly shows that there is no performance difference between KDE and XFCE if you enable that option? And how about the countless posts for every DE benchmark Michael delivers, where exactly this is pointed out?
    Talk about nonconstructive again.

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  • Veto
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    Originally posted by Vim_User View Post
    So once again Micheal has not benchmarked actual performance, but performance under defaults of Ubuntu developers. Once again a useless benchmark, since the DEs/WMs were not run with same settings. A sad performance for a person running a benchmark site.
    I personally find the benchmark very interesting. Ubuntu is one of the biggest Linux distros for the average desktop user - whether you like it or not. Furthermore the optimum settings should be default and not require further subtle tweaking. If the DE/WM developers want the best exposure and end user experience they should pay attention to and guide down-stream integration.

    If you believe one DE is misrepresented you are welcome to elaborate and suggest concrete and specific improvements. Else I am forced to conclude it is just a sad comment for a person posting nonconstructive messages.

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  • Artemis3
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    These tests are missing memory usage...

    As for unredirect, i often play games in a maximized window (not fullscreen), so that one (vertical) panel shows me net status, speed, temp, and other info.

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  • GreatEmerald
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    Originally posted by bakgwailo View Post
    I would assume 'Suspend Desktop effects for fullscreen windows" was not checked, as usual. If this is the case, I would suspect that enabling that would bring back in line with the other DEs.
    Last I saw, that checkbox had "if (intel) return;" due to some old bugs. Not sure if it's fixed yet or not.

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