KDE's Plasma-Next Gets A Release Date

[phoronix]

Phoronix: KDE's Plasma-Next Gets A Release Date

Sebastian K?gler laid out plans to get a final version of Plasma Next out this summer...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTU4NjU

[nox86]

Why? Why is it so ugly ... with all those thick frames, glamour dashes and candy eye icons...

[TheBlackCat]

Looks like they aren't too happy:

http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2014-January/028232.html

To whoever poked Michael L. about it: please think whether it was useful to
make media aware of our internal discussions and announce a release date
before we finished the discussion and announce it through our media channel.
Also it sucks that he already uses a version number even though we haven't
announced one yet.

This really sucks and I'm quite pissed. This also goes to Phoronix for
reporting about internal discussion. Awesome that you get the hits for
reporting it first, but it makes working in the open really hard. To whoever
poked Michael in the first place, please also pass this one on.

Cheers
Martin

[GreatEmerald]

I don't really see what's the issue here. We already knew that the future (Wayland, KF5, and now Plasma 2) is coming this summer. So no big news there. The fact that the official channels won't be the first ones to report it doesn't sound like much of an issue, either: if it's not out through the official channels, then it's a rumour. And, well, Phoronix is known for doing that. If the plans change, then Phoronix will have to double back as well. No harm done. And definitely not worth closing the discussions down for things like that.

Now if the article isn't accurate, then it's another matter entirely.

[Spittie]

Why? Why is it so ugly ... with all those thick frames, glamour dashes and candy eye icons...

Because there is a lot of complaining, but in the end no one is willing to help/provide a new theme.

[k1l_]

wait what? flaming because not the whole world runs like he wants?

https://plus.google.com/+MartinGr%C3%A4%C3%9Flin/posts/FEk6grnDpQV

[shmerl]

Great, but I worry that Nvidia won't release Wayland driver in time.

I see no problems about reporting on "internal" discussions by the way - that's open development for you. If discussion is in the public channel, it's not internal.

[Daktyl198]

Because there is a lot of complaining, but in the end no one is willing to help/provide a new theme.

No, I've already asked this and it's because if they change it there will be even more complaining than there is now, even if it's better (the whole "people reject change" thing).

I see no problems about reporting on "internal" discussions by the way - that's open development for you. If discussion is in the public channel, it's not internal.

They work out in the open. The difference between an open-internal mailing list and a new report about it is that news report usually contain "official" information, so the information contained in this article will be taken as absolute by many people who will later complain about the falsehood of it.

[Sho_]

Great, but I worry that Nvidia won't release Wayland driver in time.

Plasma Next won't require Wayland. It will still support X11.

I see no problems about reporting on "internal" discussions by the way - that's open development for you. If discussion is in the public channel, it's not internal.

Reporting on development discussions isn't a problem inherently; LWN.net for example does it in a generally tasteful and careful way that provides a lot of value to the FOSS community by creating awareness and circulating information. But there's nothing careful about the headline "KDE's Plasma-Next Gets A Release Date": It's actively misleading and premature. Bad quality reporting of this nature does much to impede open development, since it fosters an atmosphere in which people become afraid to discuss things in public. Folks who care about that therefore get rightfully annoyed.

[shmerl]

Plasma Next won't require Wayland. It will still support X11.

Yes, but I still would prefer to use it with Wayland + Nvidia. But alas, that probably won't happen soon.

Reporting on development discussions isn't a problem inherently; LWN.net for example does it in a generally tasteful and careful way that provides a lot of value to the FOSS community by creating awareness and circulating information. But there's nothing careful about the headline "KDE's Plasma-Next Gets A Release Date": It's actively misleading and premature. Bad quality reporting of this nature does much to impede open development, since it fosters an atmosphere in which people become afraid to discuss things in public. Folks who care about that therefore get rightfully annoyed.

I agree, LWN is more careful about how they report such updates. Phoronix more often uses tabloid style headings.