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  • Emdek
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    @webfan, yeah, I've used that feature a lot in the past.
    But I would go for global toggle-able lock instead of need to press Shift all the time (or maybe allow to drop links even if UI is locked, as long as Shift is pressed).

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  • webfan
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    So happy to start the year with this news !

    Not sure if breaking many rules by posting first here... just registered to post/link to this:

    Which browser can do this just after installed... I think only Opera, great feature to put some websites for fast access instead of maybe forgetting them in the bookmarks folder




    http://im9.eu/picture/operaisgreat

    I'm in fact hoping to learn to code... this might be very interesting, very good luck with the project



    P.S
    Heard this great news in ghacks.net

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  • Emdek
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    :-)

    There are already contributions from others and some people already work on new features.
    If someone would like to help then there are few items (smaller and bigger) already added to issue tracker, labeled as "junior jobs" (first check if someone has declared to work on them and also take a look at HACKING file for general instructions).
    These are usually tasks that are enough "independent" from core so can be done with minimal assistance from me (management eats now more time than coding ;-)). They are listed there since people ask how they can help, if no one will decide to take them then I'll do them, but simply a bit later.

    There are also sometimes tickets labeled as "discussion", these are intended to gather more feedback to make decisions that will satisfy as much users as possible.

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  • honssnoh
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    Hope you only the best with your project. Now when we all know what happened to Opera browser and developers simply ignore (from whatever reason) our voices this is some great news. Will checkout frequently for updated version for sure. I guess a lot more people will come in the future to support your project.

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  • zhnujm
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    Good luck and thanks for the alpha.
    I give you a big hug if you can make the things in your todo list happen

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  • whyME
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    This is so exciting! Best new years news ever Opera 12 is still the best browser for me with its hundreds options and all its customization, but man I can't wait to see what will happen in Otter. I mean there were many, many people who begged in DesktopTeam Blog for the browser with up to date engine with all the great features that Opera 12 had (m2, speed dial with previews, tabs with thumbnails, bookmarks nicknames, notes, synchro, proper skins, etc.) and NOW IT'S HAPPENING Happy New Year to all real Opera fans

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  • JAB Creations
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    First off I've got to point out some awesome stuff you've done right (and there is no but to follow up with that). First off the fact that you're even working on this makes me immensely happy, someone who not only is capable though seems to grasp what OTHER people think, that is a rarity in positions of power. Secondly the fact that you didn't say, "okay, so to use it you need to compile..." which people should be slapped for; most people interested don't know how to compile and you even made DEB installers available, righteous!

    Opera was always second because of it's GUI (in both positive and negative terms). If you want the GUI to appeal to most users by default the buttons should have icons with text labels on the SIDE. Google apparently hates GUI so much they removed the plus icon from the blob they call a button.

    From left-to-right, top-to-bottom my GUI in Firefox...

    [Toolbar 1
    Full File Menu [<-------->] Web Developer Toolbar
    ]

    [Toolbar 2
    Back, Forward, Reload, Stop, Home | Bookmarks, Downloads, History, Full Screen, New Tab, Paste & Go, Print [] [] [] [Search Form] [] [] [] Adblock Plus, Firebug, Tab Groups
    ]

    [Toolbar 3
    Address Bar, Bookmarks Toolbar
    ]

    [Toolbar 4
    Tabs
    ]

    I hear it all the time, "Why don't you just use keyboard shortcuts?" I do though I've probably got about four dozen GUI items at the top of Firefox and I will use the keyboard or GUI based on what my brain decides is most natural at the moment.

    My bookmarks toolbar bookmarks are almost all just favicons and there are a couple folders in there too.

    I think a having an options to mouseover the downloads menu (and moving the mouse upwards if you mouseover by mistake with minimal to no padding on the top) is the way to go. Why click when you can simply mouse over? And have it show the list there without opening another darn window.

    I use CTRL+Tab and CTRL+SHIFT+Tab so much I have them as macros on my Logitech G110 keyboard and I prefer Firefox's style of just switching to the next/previous tab, I don't need previews and all that.

    While Firefox doesn't let you vertically move toolbars up and down (moving the tab bar BELOW the main toolbar because your GUI should give you control OVER the content) it does at least let you move most items to any toolbar unless you're talking about the toolbar itself, then you have to resort to lame hacks. I like the ability to drag the toolbar to the sides (left/right/top/bottom) though being able to drag the tab bar below the address bar would be a leap over Opera. I also like having my bookmarks toolbar bookmarks on the same toolbar as the address bar; I've got a 1920x1200 screen, even retardedly long URLs aren't going to waste all the space and as you can see I simply greatly reduce or usually outright remove text labels from bookmarks.

    Here is a screenshot I took recently after Mozilla decided they too want to completely destroy the ability to have a sane GUI in their quest to copy Chrome. I don't understand some people, no GUI is NOT a GUI! This set of screenshots I took around the end of November or early December.



    I'm totally going to post about the Otter Browser on my blog in a bit. You should seriously consider doing some crowdfunding, I don't have much though I'd certainly chip in what I can if this turns out to be a serious long term project.

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  • Cyber Killer
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    Originally posted by pejakm View Post
    You can not have everything at once, you need to be patient for a while: https://github.com/QupZilla/qupzilla/issues/458
    Thx for that link. I'll keep an eye on it.

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  • Emdek
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    I'll do my best to fulfill needs of Opera users, especially that I have the same needs. ;-)

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  • The Solutor
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    Originally posted by Emdek View Post

    BTW, am I correctly assuming that this was your comment (I'm tracking comments scattered over Internet ;-))?
    Indeed, it's mine

    New "Opera" versions are really so bad?
    I consider the new version (if coupled with a bunch of extensions) a good (and very fast) browser.

    The problem is that I consider the real Opera light years better than anything else, I guess there's no need to explain to you why.


    The other problem is that even people like David Rosca (the main Qupzilla developer) aren't agreeing with me about the needs of the average Opera user. He consider Qupzilla a minimal/lightweight browser and nothing else. So qupzilla is nice, it resembles Opera on many aspects, but is far from being a real alternative to my beloved Internet tool.

    So I can't be more happy to see someone who share my point of view, especially if "someone" is a good developer. (I'm a more than experienced user, I have good knowledge about practically any OS since the DOS days, but I'm all but a coder).

    So, again, my best wishes for 2014
    Last edited by The Solutor; 02 January 2014, 11:19 AM.

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