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  • Bathroom Humor
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    I would also expect them to be forking/moving away from other Gnome libraries before too long. Unless they are going to try and use them on a QT system, which I assume is more trouble than it's worth. But who knows what they are going to try and use.

    It's really weird that some people are actually getting fed up over this good news... Or it would be weird if inconsiderate Canonical hatred wasn't the norm. Canonical could end up being the saviors of desktop Linux and people would STILL find reasons to sling insults all over it.

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  • Daktyl198
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    Originally posted by mrugiero View Post
    You didn't understand his point. The thing is, some of the GNOME dependencies used by Unity are heavily patched. Some of these patches are diverging too much from vanilla, which gives problems to GNOME users, as they get stuck to older revisions with the version Unity uses. I might be somewhat considered "lazyness", although I see it as not wasting their resources: they are going to drop Unity 7, so it makes no sense to make great works toward updating a dependency they plan to ditch in the near-term (around next year).
    Yeah, after I posted it I noticed that I mis-read one part which made me interpret it as him saying "the point of this is to unlink Unity from Gnome 3 completely" rather than "the point of this is to unlink Unity from Gnome 3 enough to run the two on the same machine"

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  • mrugiero
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    Originally posted by Daktyl198 View Post
    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    Sorry for laughing at you, but you do know how Unity 7 works, right? It's just a Compiz plugin on top of, you guessed it, Gnome 3. It CAN'T be "unlinked" as you put it.
    As for Unity 8 (which is Gnome-free), they already have the Unity System Settings project in development. This is just a short-term thing until Unity 8 gets shipped.
    You didn't understand his point. The thing is, some of the GNOME dependencies used by Unity are heavily patched. Some of these patches are diverging too much from vanilla, which gives problems to GNOME users, as they get stuck to older revisions with the version Unity uses. I might be somewhat considered "lazyness", although I see it as not wasting their resources: they are going to drop Unity 7, so it makes no sense to make great works toward updating a dependency they plan to ditch in the near-term (around next year).

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  • Daktyl198
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    Originally posted by dh04000 View Post
    Way off again Michael..... The whole point of this fork was to unlinking Unity from gnome dependencies that prevent ubuntu users from having Unity and Gnome3 installed on the same machine.
    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    Sorry for laughing at you, but you do know how Unity 7 works, right? It's just a Compiz plugin on top of, you guessed it, Gnome 3. It CAN'T be "unlinked" as you put it.
    As for Unity 8 (which is Gnome-free), they already have the Unity System Settings project in development. This is just a short-term thing until Unity 8 gets shipped.

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  • MartinN
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    Originally posted by phoronix View Post
    Phoronix: Canonical Is Forking The GNOME Control Center

    The latest open-source project being forked by the Ubuntu developers at Canonical is the GNOME Control Center. In Ubuntu 14.04, there will now be the Unity Control Center...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTU0MTI
    Divesting themselves of Gnome is probably better in the long run for them given the path they've chosen to travel...

    Someone say "forking Canonical" 10 times real fast now.....

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  • mrugiero
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    Originally posted by amagnoni View Post
    at least...
    but hey, i only use the unity.
    Then this doesn't affect you. GNOME users will see the benefits. I think this is a sensible and rather altruistic (as it doesn't really benefit their main flavor that much, but people using the GNOME flavor) choice of Canonical.

    Originally posted by Delgarde View Post
    Not only that, the mailing list post indicates that it's not a long-term fork, just a convenience thing in the near term...
    Yeah, I expected that, as I guess they'll be ditching GNOME dependencies with Unity 8.

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  • amagnoni
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    at least...
    but hey, i only use the unity.

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  • Delgarde
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    Originally posted by dh04000 View Post
    Way off again Michael..... The whole point of this fork was to unlinking Unity from gnome dependencies that prevent ubuntu users from having Unity and Gnome3 installed on the same machine. This isn't being lazy or attacking Gnome, but to allow users to run a Unity and Gnome DE system, which they can't offer currently due to dependency conflicts.
    Not only that, the mailing list post indicates that it's not a long-term fork, just a convenience thing in the near term...

    Originally posted by mailing list
    To be very clear, this is a fork with a limited lifespan. We don't expect
    to make significant changes to it outside of stability and security fixes.

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  • dee.
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    Originally posted by dh04000 View Post
    Way off again Michael..... The whole point of this fork was to unlinking Unity from gnome dependencies that prevent ubuntu users from having Unity and Gnome3 installed on the same machine. This isn't being lazy or attacking Gnome, but to allow users to run a Unity and Gnome DE system, which they can't offer currently due to dependency conflicts.

    Your a spin machine.
    What's way off? That's exactly what the article says, they're forking to prevent package collisions with GNOME. Nowhere in the article is "lazy" or "attacking gnome" mentioned. I think it's you who is lazy, not even bothering to read the articles you attack...

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  • mark45
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    That's a pity, in the last gnome control center version they actually fixed mouse pointer acceleration whose support was half baked up until now.

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