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Originally posted by 89c51 View PostYoutube uses h264 in most if not all cases. In my gstreamer enabled FF it uses that. With no gstreamer enabled it used webm for the videos that played (there were some that didn't). And don't even get me started on what happens with monetized videos.
In other words Google doesn't give a fuck at the moment.
*sigh*
you argue that a codec that just apeared on the game field has not much use... >.>
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Originally posted by 89c51 View PostWhile vp9 is new we have vp8 for quite some time and noone has been giving a fuck about it. Remind me if google used its power (ie youtube) to promote webm and give it more presence.
Monetized videos sometimes play but its probably because someone forgets to flip a switch preventing to do so or they are testing something. Soon after they finish what they do you get the This needs flash message.
Now there is a new generation of codecs, and there will be a change of old gen to nex gen. And this time vp9 does not lag behind in adoption, so it makes sense to push it at last.
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Originally posted by Kivada View PostThat said, even though I'm in the Youtube HTML5 trial and 99% of videos I've tried have a VP8 version available Youtube still demands that I install Flash to view it in page, hence why I always tell people about Flashgot to just up and download it, the VP8 content is there, but Google would rather you install Flash for advertisement purposes rather then push their codec...
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Originally posted by 89c51 View PostWhile vp9 is new we have vp8 for quite some time and noone has been giving a fuck about it. Remind me if google used its power (ie youtube) to promote webm and give it more presence.
Monetized videos sometimes play but its probably because someone forgets to flip a switch preventing to do so or they are testing something. Soon after they finish what they do you get the This needs flash message.
That said, even though I'm in the Youtube HTML5 trial and 99% of videos I've tried have a VP8 version available Youtube still demands that I install Flash to view it in page, hence why I always tell people about Flashgot to just up and download it, the VP8 content is there, but Google would rather you install Flash for advertisement purposes rather then push their codec...
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Originally posted by 89c51 View PostYoutube uses h264 in most if not all cases. In my gstreamer enabled FF it uses that. With no gstreamer enabled it used webm for the videos that played (there were some that didn't). And don't even get me started on what happens with monetized videos.
In other words Google doesn't give a fuck at the moment. Neither HW manufacturers. Ie are these codecs HW accelerated in your new AMD/nVidia card.
Install Flashgot if you don't believe me, it'll list all versions of the video available on Youtube's servers in all quality levels.
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Originally posted by rudregues View PostWell, I just read these news here and searched more about VP9. What wikipedia says:
"Although Google has irrevocably released all of its patents on VP8 as a royalty-free format, the MPEG LA, licensors of the H.264 patent pool, have expressed interest in creating a patent pool for VP8. Conversely, other researchers cite evidence that On2 made a particular effort to avoid any MPEG LA patents. As a result of the threat, the United States Department of Justice (DOJ) started an investigation in March 2011 into the MPEG LA for its role in possibly attempting to stifle competition. In March 2013, MPEG LA announced that it had reached an agreement with Google to license patents that "may be essential" for the implementation of the VP8 codec, and give Google the right to sub-license these patents to any third-party user of VP8 or VP9."
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebM
Question: is VP9 'free' with 'some parts patented' or not? Is this good for firefox? If it's not there's no advantage for firefox change H.264 for VP9, I think...
VP9 and H.265 are extensions of the current VP8 and H.264 respectively for 4K resolutions, when you are dealing with 8.3MPixel of 4K content versus the 2.1MPixel content at 1080p there are allot more things you can tweak to use a lower bitrate and the required 10 bit color gamut of 4K video and still get a better end result from your encode then you do with current methods and only 1080p resolution to work with.
Firefox isn't going to be swapping out anything since these modded codecs are for like I said, very high resolution content, VP8 and H.264 will still be the preferred codecs for 1080p and under content
I don't have Flash installed but use Flashgot on Youtube all the time to purposefully download videos in VP8, if I get a 4K display I'll start downloading VP9 content from them as well.
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The real question is whether Google can get Adobe to use it as the default codec in all of their web products. As much as I hate to say it, their tools are still the standard bearers for much of the larger web development community.
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