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  • Originally posted by Honton View Post
    You already got the Ohloh numbers. Showing KDE is DOOMED

    I just went ahead at took a look on the monthly average for five digests near July month of 2013, 2012 and 2011. Based on KDE commit digests.

    2011: 230 contributors, 2490 commits
    2012: 192 contributors, 2230 commits
    2013: 164 contributors, 1960 commits

    Sorry but like Ohloh and the commit digest agrees. KDE is DYING Now deal with the facts, and don't shoot the messenger.
    There was a similar drop leading up to the KDE 4.0 release as well. I guess KDE died then too

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    • Originally posted by Honton View Post
      There is no diff, there is no pressure. Gnome3 is doing just fine in the coming RHEL and in Fedora.
      Well, there is a diff, actually. For one thing, fedora doesn't ship Epiphany/Web. I believe there are others as well, but that's the main user facing difference.
      As for pressure, I'm not sure you're right about that...

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      • Originally posted by Honton View Post
        KDE should worry more about pressure, because Kubuntu is based on a non-standard distrobution.
        Kubuntu is not the only KDE distro, almost no KDE developer even uses Kubuntu. Also, to which standard do you refer?

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        • Originally posted by Honton View Post
          Total denial eh? One of KDE's main distributions are going down the drain, Gnome3 is confirmed for RHEL7 and you guys are talking about Gnome feeling pressure??
          Kubuntu has never been one of KDE's "main distributions". Ubuntu has always been far more a "main distribution" for Gnome than Kubuntu has ever been for KDE. There is a reason pretty much no KDE developers use Kubuntu, and it has been that way as long as Kubuntu has existed.

          Again, you are just making stuff up.

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          • Originally posted by Honton View Post
            Sources, please.
            http://dot.kde.org/2009/07/14/growth...e-contributors

            KDE 4.0 was released at the beginning of 2008. There was a steady drop in contributors in the year prior to the release, followed by a surge immediately after.

            http://kde.mcamen.de/statistics.html

            Here you can see a lull in the number of commits ending around a year before the 4.0 release.
            Last edited by TheBlackCat; 30 August 2013, 12:06 PM.

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            • Originally posted by Honton View Post
              Total denial eh? One of KDE's main distributions are going down the drain, Gnome3 is confirmed for RHEL7 and you guys are talking about Gnome feeling pressure??
              Kubuntu is not 'going down the drain'... And even if it was (which it isn't) there are other major kde distros such as opensuse.

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              • Originally posted by Honton View Post
                (Emphasis mine)
                Haha. So you are calling the current situation a "similar drop"? Let me educate you. KDE has so few commits right now, that you need to go back to 2005 to see a similar situation. And if August is going to end bad as expected you have to go back to f...ing 2003. KDE is dying.

                But thanks anyway for sharing the count on KDE commits from the mailing lists. It shows the same trend as Ohloh and the commit digests.
                *sigh* Does your dishonesty really know no bounds?

                First, the commit digest only counts people who have volunteered to have their commits counted, while the numbers in the plots are total commits. That will always be lower. Second, git commits are different than svn ones, those numbers will also always be lower.

                The import thing is the trend, which you asked for then promptly ignored when you got it.

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                • So now are you not only totally ignoring what I have said (comparing SVN to GIT numbers, for example), you are back to relying on the utterly useless Ohloh numbers. Thanks for proving to everyone just how dishonest you are willing to be to smear KDE.

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                  • Originally posted by Honton View Post
                    Im not comparing numbers across different sources. Im comparing trends. And the trend shows the same. KDE id dying.
                    A blatant lie. You ignored the two trends and tried to compare absolute numbers. It is right there for everyone to see.

                    Originally posted by Honton View Post
                    Ohloh useless? File a bug to the Ohloh KDE manager.
                    The problems with Ohloh have already been discussed. You didn't refute those problems then. Now you are pretending that whole conversation didn't happen. Do you really think everyone will just forget things that happened a few pages?

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                    • The problem here is simple: Ohloh only tracks a single git branch. Since the switch to git, KDE development has been moving more and more into individual feature branches, something that was not done with SVN. Ohloh doesn't see any code put into those. A lot of work is also being done in scratch repos that did not exist in the SVN days and are not tracked by Ohloh, either. So the numbers are completely and utterly useless for the purpose you are trying to use them for. You would know this with about 30 seconds of checking on Ohloh, but of course you didn't do that.
                      Last edited by TheBlackCat; 31 August 2013, 06:54 AM.

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