Figured out a somewhat hacky workaround to my issue with streaming videos on my lan with kde
enabled IIS on the windows box and enabled directory browsing. Now I can just browser the videos via http in my web browser and stream them via smplayer just fine. No dealing with mounting shares or fstab silliness.
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Originally posted by Ericg View PostOne important thing that was missed... the bug that caused the taskbar to randomly re-arrange and overlap has been officially closed (Whether as FIXED or WONTFIX varies on your perspective lol) no one so far as been able to reproduce the behavior in KDE 4.11-- with the new QML based taskbar. So if you hate that bug you have to upgrade to 4.11 to not be affected by it.
If it turns out there really is going on some memory corruption things will get worse thanks to the new QML task bar Debugging memory corruptions is IMHO harder than debugging layouting.
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Originally posted by Thaodan View PostIf you open a file in a smb:// share KDE downloads it for you and says the programm to open the tmp file.
Originally posted by GreatEmerald View PostI don't see how you can mount a share without configuring anything - you still need to tell the system where the share is found and how to handle it...
Originally posted by erendorn View PostYou shouldn't have to be root to mount a network drive.
You shouldn't have to use fstab to mount a share at a friend's house/client network.
If you have per user personal network drives, and multi users PCs, well, it doesn't scale well.
Yes, it is easy to configure fstab, and is ok enough for most cases.
No, it is not sufficient.Last edited by bwat47; 15 June 2013, 09:39 AM.
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Originally posted by erendorn View PostYou shouldn't have to be root to mount a network drive.
You shouldn't have to use fstab to mount a share at a friend's house/client network.
If you have per user personal network drives, and multi users PCs, well, it doesn't scale well.
Yes, it is easy to configure fstab, and is ok enough for most cases.
No, it is not sufficient.
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Originally posted by GreatEmerald View PostAgain, I don't have much experience with SMB or gvfs, but using a GUI tool to configure fstab is really not hard. I don't see how you can mount a share without configuring anything - you still need to tell the system where the share is found and how to handle it...
You shouldn't have to use fstab to mount a share at a friend's house/client network.
If you have per user personal network drives, and multi users PCs, well, it doesn't scale well.
Yes, it is easy to configure fstab, and is ok enough for most cases.
No, it is not sufficient.
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Again, I don't have much experience with SMB or gvfs, but using a GUI tool to configure fstab is really not hard. I don't see how you can mount a share without configuring anything - you still need to tell the system where the share is found and how to handle it...
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Originally posted by GreatEmerald View PostWell yea, that's my point – just have it configured in /etc/fstab.
Users shouldn't be expected to edit /etc/fstab for this kind of simple functionality. I expect to be able to mount/unmount my shares in the file manager on demand as a user, and anything else is not acceptable.
Dolphin/kde does not handle this "to the best of its ability", because handling it to the best of its ability would either be using gvfs or a gvfs solution to actually mount the shares on the fly so applications can actually use the files on the share. Dicking around with fstab for hours is not my definition of convenience or user friendliness.
I really like KDE but this is without a doubt a big issue IMO.Last edited by bwat47; 14 June 2013, 05:18 PM.
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Originally posted by Sho_ View PostThis isn't relevant for shares configured via fstab, but it is for users who don't want to do that and use apps not using KIO.
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Originally posted by Awesomeness View PostWell, I get the argument for 4.10 but considering that 4.11 is supposed to be an ?LTS? release some Plasma widgets may actually get new feature releases before PW2 is ready for widespread consumption. Tweaking things like version support in BKO sounds to me like less work than to do a whole ?4.12? just because some QML Plasma applets have been updated and released possibly just released via GHNS.
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What he's referring to is that gvfs' approach to accessing Windows shares is to create a temporary mount point somewhere in $HOME and ask the kernel to use it, whereas KIO uses its own plugin using the userspace Samba client libraries. The consequence is that apps launched from the file manager need to be able to understand smb:// URLs (either via KIO or on their own), whereas gvfs hands out what are effectively local filesystem paths.
This isn't relevant for shares configured via fstab, but it is for users who don't want to do that and use apps not using KIO.Last edited by Sho_; 14 June 2013, 04:54 PM.
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