The State Of PackageKit, AppStream, & Listaller

[Rexilion]

I'm not talking about PackageKit. And I'm already using PackageKit, by the way. What I'm against is "app stores" (yay for copyright Apple terms?). They have useless features and way too simplistic interfaces. Package managers have worked just fine so far, I don't see the need for "app stores".

To me, PackageKit is an equivalent of the AppStore for Linux. So? I think it's good. No one wants to be bothered by huge lists of packages containing libs and weird suffixes (-dev you say?).

Seriously, what's the real difference between tapping on an icon to install AngryBirds, or clicking on an icon to install vsftpd as an FTP-server? They both install software the user is requesting. What is the latter (over)symplifying over the former?

That said, I'm wondering how Gentoo is handling Packagekit with respect to useflags (haven't checked it out).

[GreatEmerald]

I disapprove this comment. The reason being that the poster fails to understand that PackageKit is not there to replace his package manager. He probably doesn't understand what PackageKit even is.

I'm not talking about PackageKit. And I'm already using PackageKit, by the way. What I'm against is "app stores" (yay for copyright Apple terms?). They have useless features and way too simplistic interfaces. Package managers have worked just fine so far, I don't see the need for "app stores".

[89c51]

I like my package managers just fine, thank you very much.

Yeah but what about proprietary SW. Ie a CAD/CAE suite, and any app you need and that FOSS ones can't match.

[RealNC]

I like my package managers just fine, thank you very much.

I disapprove this comment. The reason being that the poster fails to understand that PackageKit is not there to replace his package manager. He probably doesn't understand what PackageKit even is.

[kUrb1a]

I approve this comment.

Ditto !

[Redi44]

+1

I like my package managers just fine, thank you very much.

I approve this comment.

[GreatEmerald]

Woot, appstore for Linux .

I like my package managers just fine, thank you very much.

[kUrb1a]

When was appstream created and discussed Ubuntu devs where there and they liked the idea.As far as i can tell Ubuntu's collaboration was critical in some way.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTA1MA

So,
1st they were collaborative.
2nd PackageKit was broken and bad frontend for a very long time and a lot of effort when't to fix that on Canonical (not directly to project) end so that we have sensible App management (search/installation/removal) .

To have a better picture of the situation here is in Michael words :

Ubuntu's Software Center will serve as the front-end user-interface after it's been ported to utilize PackageKit. Xapian (already used by Ubuntu ) servers will then power the search and utilize the Open Collaboration Service (OCS) for some of the social aspects like user ratings and reviews. The AppStream interface will just be a front-end to PackageKit so that each distribution can then continue rely upon their existing package management systems, but the complexities are hidden from the user.

[nej_simon]

Am hoping ubuntu adopts linstaller, 0install or Nix...

Ubuntu is creating their own solution as usual so that's unlikely!

"I find it very sad that so many parties currently start reinventing the basic ideas of Listaller, instead of helping the Listaller project to improve, and kill the remaining flaws," Matthias Klumpp, creator of the Listaller package-management system, wrote in reply to Watson.

[Rexilion]

Woot, appstore for Linux .