Linus Torvalds Is Back To Using GNOME 3 Desktop

[kigurai]

So let me ask you one thing and one thing only:

Wasn't the same thing possible with GNOME 2? Workspaces are old...

Sure they were. But that's not the question you asked.
And, personally I feel I make better use of workspaces now than before.

Plus, what you said isn't solving the major problems of Gnome Shell... My problem is not dividing applications to separate workspaces... It is too much work everytime to try to make the shell behave in a manner that is productive when you want to use multiple windows...

And I just said I have no problem using multiple windows. There's five of them on my current workspace. Three on the other. And I switch heavily between them.
No, sorry, I don't see the problem.

[TemplarGR]

I currently have 8 windows open on two workspaces. One workspace for general browsing, email and music. One for the work I am currently doing (currently a text editor, a browser, and an IDE). If I work on more than one thing I put that on a separate workspace as well.
Switching task is now a simple matter of CTRL-ALT-<up/down> or <Super> to switch via the overlay.
Switching between windows is either <ALT>-<TAB> or <Super>.
It works very well.

So let me ask you one thing and one thing only:

Wasn't the same thing possible with GNOME 2? Workspaces are old...

Plus, what you said isn't solving the major problems of Gnome Shell... My problem is not dividing applications to separate workspaces... It is too much work everytime to try to make the shell behave in a manner that is productive when you want to use multiple windows...

[kigurai]

Let me tell you that all this funcionality you described in your post, is absolutely basic. It is funcionality for the casual desktop use case. Like we said many times ago. When you find a way to work with many windows in a sane manner in Gnome 3, post again to tell us...

I currently have 8 windows open on two workspaces. One workspace for general browsing, email and music. One for the work I am currently doing (currently a text editor, a browser, and an IDE). If I work on more than one thing I put that on a separate workspace as well.
Switching task is now a simple matter of CTRL-ALT-<up/down> or <Super> to switch via the overlay.
Switching between windows is either <ALT>-<TAB> or <Super>.
It works very well.

[TemplarGR]

Gnome 3.8 brings back classic Gnome 2.x design, implemented as a shell.

But to be honest, Gnome 3.6 is already the best desktop I've ever used on Linux, thus far. I hate Gnome 2.x and I still think KDE4 is superb. But Gnome 2 would be a massive step backwards, IM(very)HO.

I do think that tiling in Gnome 3 can be taken a step further, still.

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I also wonder what basic functionality is lost... Middle click to minimize, windows-key for search and overview and task-tray, ALT-F4 to close (should be Ctrl+middle mouse click, but that can be adjusted), windows+up is maximize, windows+left/right is tiling, windows+down is 'un-maximize'. Also; press Enter to slide the lockscreen. Workspaces are dymanic and Ctrl+Alt+down/up is switching workspaces. Best of all maybe is more screen real-estate, less visual noise and a notification-design that doesn't distract me like fsck.

Suspend to RAM is simply Alt+clicking on shutdown button.

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If you like Gnome 2 and if you are convinced Gnome 3 axes functionality; you're just dumb and like to live in the past. This is minimalism that for the first time convinced me that less can actualy be more.

It's faster than Gnome 2 and usage of OpenGL 1.x is perfect, since it works perfectly with the open drivers. No longer are there any WM glitches when playing an OpenGL game in full screen and using compoziting window management at the same time.

I see you are VERY HUMBLE. In your "IM(very)HO" everyone that thinks Gnome 3 axes functionality is dumb. Nice...

Let me tell you that all this funcionality you described in your post, is absolutely basic. It is funcionality for the casual desktop use case. Like we said many times ago. When you find a way to work with many windows in a sane manner in Gnome 3, post again to tell us...

[schmalzler]

Link to prove how great the design of Gnome Shell is:

http://lleksah.wordpress.com/2013/03/09/extensions-of-gnome/#comment-3300

* menus on windows is a hack
* no Gtk widgets in gnome shell because gnome shell == window manager

-> the "proper" design already contains hacks and is still quite limited in its use.
Such restrictions don't exist in plasma.

[funkSTAR]

But to be honest, Gnome 3.6 is already the best desktop I've ever used on Linux, thus far.

True. Gnome 3.8 takes this a looong step further. To bad Phoronix doesnt cover gnome development all that much.

[V!NCENT]

Every desktop that has to rely on tweak tools to give people basic functionally seems to be fundamentally flawed.
Have fun with your extensions they'll no longer work 2-3 iterations from now. Pretty cool especially when extension developers no longer support the extension you need and don't port it to the new gnome shell version.

Gnome 3.8 brings back classic Gnome 2.x design, implemented as a shell.

But to be honest, Gnome 3.6 is already the best desktop I've ever used on Linux, thus far. I hate Gnome 2.x and I still think KDE4 is superb. But Gnome 2 would be a massive step backwards, IM(very)HO.

I do think that tiling in Gnome 3 can be taken a step further, still.

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I also wonder what basic functionality is lost... Middle click to minimize, windows-key for search and overview and task-tray, ALT-F4 to close (should be Ctrl+middle mouse click, but that can be adjusted), windows+up is maximize, windows+left/right is tiling, windows+down is 'un-maximize'. Also; press Enter to slide the lockscreen. Workspaces are dymanic and Ctrl+Alt+down/up is switching workspaces. Best of all maybe is more screen real-estate, less visual noise and a notification-design that doesn't distract me like fsck.

Suspend to RAM is simply Alt+clicking on shutdown button.

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If you like Gnome 2 and if you are convinced Gnome 3 axes functionality; you're just dumb and like to live in the past. This is minimalism that for the first time convinced me that less can actualy be more.

It's faster than Gnome 2 and usage of OpenGL 1.x is perfect, since it works perfectly with the open drivers. No longer are there any WM glitches when playing an OpenGL game in full screen and using compoziting window management at the same time.

[Geert Jalink]

Default settings

To make Linux beautiful I need to install an Icon package, download nice wallpapers, and change to e.g. Oxygen on KDE. And the bootscreen unfortunately looks horrible for Kubuntu but I don't know how to change a Plymouth boot screen. Linux should come with easy accessible default themes, and beautiful combinations.

Most of my Linux install time goes to make Linux beautiful.

I think Linus Torvalds should be seduced by the most beautiful looking distribution.

[bwat47]

I was using failsafe-gnome until they announced its demise. I switched to Xfce but found that Thunar is the weak point. No integrated file search (just a hack to run Catfish in a target directory) and no tabbed browsing.

The new thunar 1.6 is much improved. still doesn't have search which is definitely a weakpoint but it does have tabbed browsing now and they've fixed a ton of bugs, and overhauled the UI a bit.

[pingufunkybeat]

Well he prefered gnome+extensions over kde+plasmoids. gnome wins and is the most extendable desktop. KDE is not staring into the abyss, KDE is down the abyss.

Now that I've corrected all the factual errors in your post, it's been cut down to this: your opinion.

And I'm fine with the fact that you have this opinion. Choice is good, KDE is still leading innovation, each to his own