if there are so many people out there that love gnom3 then explain to me why even fedora (the only relevant distro that uses gnome3 as default at this point) is even considering switching to cinnamon?
I wasn't around but a quick look in wikipedia takes us back to the time when fedora,ubuntu, debian, mint ALL shared the same fucking DE
well something clearly went askew when even fedora is abandoning ship.
as soon as fedora does that, and it will
gnome3 will be as relevant as a week old beach turd from a stray dog.
they will drive the gnome project straight into the ground while singing "LALA LA it's not us it's people who dont like new things LA LA LA" and in the trunk there will be a dozen retards LIKE YOURSELF singing " there's nothing better than gnome, except national socialism and german trannies"
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Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post"Thanks" to Gnome 3 we have divided and messed up Linux desktop. "Thanks" to this mess there's now Cinnamon, Mate, fallback and God only knows what new will appear in the future.
"Thanks" to Gnome 3 developers there's no unified notification system between KDE and Gnome. There are rumors (or perhaps, it's confirmed and I have missed something) Ubuntu will completely cut off from the Gnome and common graphic stack like Wayland and will use some part from Android. Upcoming Canonical's SDK won't be compatible with Gnome, so developers will have additional work to do if they wish to support both environments... I wonder how Nvidia and AMD are willing to support Wayland and Ubuntu's stack same time? The point is there are great non Ubuntu technologies like Wayland and systemd, but they'll loose, because Ubuntu is the most popular distribution. It could be different if Gnome 3 wouldn't be such a broken mess made and approved by selfish idiots who doesn't care about Linux' popularity, but about themselves. In Gnome 2 times Ubuntu was only slightly more popular, because users could install Fedora and they had similar experience. I bet Fedora with Gnome 2 like DE would slow down Canonical from turning away from upstream technologies. Btw. there's very popular KDE that will use Wayland, but it can't do much alone without corporate support like Fedora and Gnome have.
Take a step back, take a few breaths, and consider if what you just wrote makes sense and is fair.
If you want to dislike GNOME. Fine. But calling the developers "selfish idiots" when the sole argument against it seems to be "I don't like it, why don't they work on what I want?" it seems a bit hypocritical. This goes a general comment, and is not only directed towards you, by the way.
Also as a general note to the GNOME-haters: There is quite a lot of us with "real jobs" who happens to like GNOME3 and use it daily.
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oh I hate HATE all things apple and appletards....
but I'd be lying... actually everyone has to recognize iOS and that aqua thing in os x 10.4...
They've got really good designers is what I'm saying.
it's like the antithesis of linux
apple = crap systems, superb design
linux = great systems, crap design (except for chrome os, unity -coul be lots improved, ICS )
let's talk straight now gnome 3 really alienated people and they are going down a path that is self destructive and they will make 1000 excuses and say the blame it's on the users and their unwilligness to accept new things
I love new things
sometimes I love something because it's new, hell I'm running k3.8 and all alpha software just because I like NEW
I love android I love all things touch
I didn't really like the windows UI from 95 to 7 and I consider win8 to be the same shit since all you have to do is install a fucking start menu app and TA DA same exact shit.
I can like something: ios, unity, pantheon
or not like something: kde, cinnamon, windows
but you will never see me talk shit about cinnamon, kde simply because even if I don't like the 'windows' look, it is functional and, if need be, I can use it.
with gnome 3 I wanted to like it
I've tried it and it's just frustration and stupidity and uglyness
In 15 days I could fix it but in every new version they just keep going deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole that is pure fail
gnome used to be present in all the top linux distros
now they managed to piss everyone off and the last remaining gnome stronghold is even considering switching to cinnamon or whatever.
yet they put their hand on their ears and do the "LA LA LA LA LA" like mongoloid kids
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While I don't share Pallidus' love for MacOS/Capslock, I agree with the point he made.
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... my laptop fell when I was making the last post and is now all fucked up but I will continue my argument:
KDE is not for me, it never was, it's too 'all over the place' menus inside menus inside menus, big fat colorful icons looking like they were drawn by crayons etc...
... but hey AT LEAST YOU CAN USE IT, as it FUNCTIONS.
LXDE is primitive/basic as shit but again IT FUNCTIONS
xfce ditto
All the win interfaces from 95 to 7, were for me just a step above KDE but again THEY FUNCTION.
The ones I'm more at home with and feel JOY in using:
OS X 10.4, pantheon, UNITY, iOS, ICS.
gnome 3 is just NOT FUNCTIONAL, GET IT? NOT ON A FUCKING TABLET NOT ON A FUCKING LAPTOP NOT A FUCKING DESKTOP
IT IS A BROKEN PIECE OF SHIT DESIGNED BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO DESIGN A UI.
GRAB WINDOWS 7 AND OS X AND UNITY AND WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT
AND THEN GRAB GNOME 3
do this:
USING YOUR MOUSE AND NOT SHORTCUTS LIKE A FAT NECKBEARDED PIECE OF SHIT
copy and paste text from a text document putting it side by side with a firefox window
open several nautilus windows in different folders and copy files amonst them
switch from a application to another
I WILL FUCKING DO PHYSICAL HARM TO SUM1 THAT SAYS THAT GNOME 3 IS GREAT IN FRONT OF ME IN REAL LIFE
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Originally posted by mr_bombastic View PostThis video left me seriously disappointed. I thought "oh, someone from Gnome, at a conference. This will probably be enlightening". Turns out I was wrong. He went on to say Gnome 2 was ok, but that is was "old" and the community wanted to do something new, so keep improving or making incremental changes to 2 was out of the question. That's it. I've heard better reasoning for Gnome 3 reading /. flame wars. Really. He asks the audience if they thought Gnome 3.0 was ready for users. When pretty much everyone disagrees, he says "well, it's a matter of point of view, and I thought it was ready, so there. Myth debunked. Next.". Really, I don't dislike Gnome 3 with passion or anything, but this whole video was so uninformative it's actually amazing. The part about removing features (edit: about 8 minutes in the video) is jaw-dropping. He says it's a myth that they keep removing features because they decide a certain way is best and so they take configurability away from the UI. That's what removing features is, how can he say it's a myth? He's affirming what he's supposedly denying!
But the presentation seemed to be a little bit "missing the point" in the sense that the criticism is not necessarily with GNOME 3 per se, but rather the shell they've given us which, frankly, doesn't work for some of us. I respect that they have their vision and for some users it's a great shell, but for a lot of us it just doesn't work, it's not simply a superficial appearance thing, and they've lost us.
To pretend that it's all just a myth in our heads is perplexing.
I'm not saying that Win 7 or OS X or Unity or GNOME 2 (gnome-panel) all give us perfect shells but for many of us we can at least balance the usability against the sacrifices and make it work. For some of us GNOME Shell can't do that. At all.
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by funkSTAR View PostThats a classic. Envy causing moronix hate. Everybody know you and fellow KDE neckbeards are flaming GNOME because of envy. Loooooooosers.Last edited by Guest; 10 February 2013, 04:50 PM.
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Originally posted by Pawlerson View PostBtw. there's very popular KDE that will use Wayland, but it can't do much alone without corporate support like Fedora and Gnome have.
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Guest repliedto cut the stupid talk off and face reality
Originally posted by VoodooSyxx View PostHeh. The crux of the man's argument was that most of the detractors were having a huge emotionally driven overrection. Glad you didn't do anything silly like toss out a huge emotionally driven overreaction of an opinion and prove the man right, or anything.Last edited by Guest; 10 February 2013, 12:12 PM.
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