Microsoft Looking At Office For Linux In 2014

[snadrus]

O365

Firefox & Chrome compatibility with zero plug-ins has been high on the list. With that provided, most any other HTML5 browser in Linux should work fine. Every game company that's gone to the "Cloud model" hasn't gone back (and often stops making boxed titles). Why want something that even Windows systems may not have in 2014?

[sheldonl]

This probably really only means ....

Office 365...

[dee.]

I am pragmatic. I use whatever works best in a situation. I use both closed source and open source. What I do notice in the linux world and it pisses me off is this attitude that everything that is not open source is somehow evil

It depends on the application. For some things, it doesn't really matter if it's closed or open source (or does, but not all that much). For example, games. Game creators are mostly still stuck in 20th century business models, so they feel that they need to close their source in order to make a profit, and well, that's not ideal but it's ok, because it's a game, you just play it and that's it.

But then there's things that you definitely want to be open source. Compilers, development tools, operating systems, anything that modifies your system files, things like gparted for example. Part of the reason is trust - I would never trust a closed-source application to mess around with my partitions. But a bigger reason is, that people depend on these tools, they need to be certain that they can depend on these tools in the future; that if the current developer gets tired with the project, someone else can continue maintaining and developing it. With closed source, you're at the mercy of the software company, and if they stop supporting a tool (either because they go bankrupt or maybe because they want to periodically squeeze some more money from their customers by forcing them to a new paid version of their software) then that's it, the codebase is closed so there's nothing anyone can do about it.

And then there's things like standards. You really want standards to be open and transparent, because, well... the reason should be obvious - if it's a standard, everyone should be free to use it, no one should be required to pay for using something that is a standard, and everyone should have access to the specs, because otherwise what's the point of having it be a standard in a first place...

You would be stupid not to care whether your software is open or closed. It is indeed an important consideration for many, and dismissing those who care about the openness of their software as "zealots" is really short-sighted. Ideally, all software would be free and open source, but until we live in that world it's best to support free and open source software as much as we can. Be the change you want to see, you know.

[Bernard Swiss]

I can't stand using XP these days compared to 7 or even vista, its a dinasaur. Windows 7 is far improved over XP. Other improvements off of the top of my head:

Start menu that has search and doesn't totally suck, DWM/aero (graphically accelerated, pretty, no tearing and such), Many improvements under the hood to security and performance [better multithreading (for an obvious example putting in a cd no longer freezes every explorer window), better security (UAC, and process integrity levels), Much improved internet explorer, better driver models (drivers in vista/7/8 are much less likely to cause a BSOD, and can often cleanly recover from crashes)].

Yes, the security is a lot better than it once was, too.
If Windows had been this much "not that bad" a decade or so ago (and if Microsoft had any sign of some sort of ethical standards) I might not have ended up a confirmed Linux user and FOSS advocate. (Thank you, Microsoft, for giving me that push).

[bwat47]

1) DRM (as in "Digital Restrictions management", not "Direct Rendering Manager")

2) You can safely leave Windows 7 running all week without a reboot.

3) UAC that kind of works

4?) a built-in guest account template? (I'm not sure -- I don't remember whether XP might have had that, already).

Aside from that...

I can't stand using XP these days compared to 7 or even vista, its a dinasaur. Windows 7 is far improved over XP. Other improvements off of the top of my head:

Start menu that has search and doesn't totally suck, DWM/aero (graphically accelerated, pretty, no tearing and such), Many improvements under the hood to security and performance [better multithreading (for an obvious example putting in a cd no longer freezes every explorer window), better security (UAC, and process integrity levels), Much improved internet explorer, better driver models (drivers in vista/7/8 are much less likely to cause a BSOD, and can often cleanly recover from crashes)].

[Bernard Swiss]

Seriously, what was so much improved in Vista, 7, and 8? After 12 years since XP, what is the real progress?

1) DRM (as in "Digital Restrictions management", not "Direct Rendering Manager")

2) You can safely leave Windows 7 running all week without a reboot.

3) UAC that kind of works

4?) a built-in guest account template? (I'm not sure -- I don't remember whether XP might have had that, already).

Aside from that...

[DeepDayze]

This has got to be an April fools. Just thinking about it causes a headache.

And its not even April 1st yet dammit

MS seems to always be shooting its mouth off about Linux and all we say now is "ho hum". Right now LibreOffice is getting better and better at being able to handle Office documents without mangling them so that they still can be opened in MS Office without any issues.

[runrun]

Microsoft's real moneymaker has always been office. If they see linux become viable for the desktop then I could see them doing this, to make sure they lock as many people as possible into their office ecosystem.

At our company, Office isn't a large proportion of the cost - All the CALs for all the services are what cost the money on a Microsoft network.

[curaga]

In addition, the incompatibilities were within the same product family, not between families like in your Windows comparison. Ie, Office for Windows 97 and Office for Mac 98, or the next revision, Office XP on Windows vs Office 2001 on Mac.

(editing still broken in Opera)

[curaga]

None of this supports your claim office for Mac was written from scratch. There are incompatibilies between different versions on windows this does not mean they do not share code bases. Also just because VB is not supported in mac also does not mean the do not share code bases.

OK; let's say instead that whatever sharing exists is poor and mostly ancient. Better?