(Reminder to himself Phonon not plasma) Well here is pretty good write up about phonon:
As I understand it it's kde multimedia player->phonon->phonon-backend-ie-gstreamer->gstreamer->audio drivers(pulse,alsa,oss) so if gstreamer does big changes, then multimedia player does not have to rewrite any code. It's should be corrected in phonon backend level.
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Originally posted by Awesomeness View PostThis can't be completely right because then each back-end had to support e.g. PulseAudio.
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Originally posted by ShadowBane View Postyou have it backwards, the audo applications tell phonon to play something, and phonon tell the selected backend to play it (and does some magic with choosing the device, etc.)
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Originally posted by Awesomeness View PostWell, you did write that Xine is the most trouble-free which means that every other available back-end (incl. VLC) has problems. ;-)
I don't know OSS4 from my own experience, I don't know how VLC is configured in Mint, and I don't know which problems VLC has with OSS4 but if I understand Phonon correctly, the back-ends do not output sound by themselves but instead just relay it to Phonon which means that if Phonon works with OSS4, all available back-ends should work the same.
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Originally posted by tuke81 View PostHeh I did not mention anything about vlc. But in mint 13(kde 4.8) it's more useless than gstreamer. Hopefully it's much better on newer versions of kde(I use oss4 though which could have something todo it with too).
I don't know OSS4 from my own experience, I don't know how VLC is configured in Mint, and I don't know which problems VLC has with OSS4 but if I understand Phonon correctly, the back-ends do not output sound by themselves but instead just relay it to Phonon which means that if Phonon works with OSS4, all available back-ends should work the same.
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Originally posted by Awesomeness View PostHuh? Which problems are there with the VLC back-end?
The only problem I ever had was when VLC was upgraded to 2.0 and the Phonon (not Plasma) wrapper was not yet updated to be compatible (packaging problem since Phonon-VLC 0.5 was released in advance of VLC 2.0) and the main problem at that time was that I was stuck with the GStreamer POS. >_<
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Originally posted by tuke81 View PostI really miss xine. Xine plasma backend was the most trouble free solution, it never stop the music like this gstreamer does every now and then after playing some odd files(no matter was it ogg or mp3). Sadly there were no developers to maintain xine backend anymore and xine-lib 2.x broke compability with plasma. Infact I just downgraded plasma and amarok on my main machine(kde mint 13) just for getting good'ol'xine backend to work(only amarok forced me to downgrade whole plasma, every other player worked fine with old xine backend and new plasma).
The only problem I ever had was when VLC was upgraded to 2.0 and the Phonon (not Plasma) wrapper was not yet updated to be compatible (packaging problem since Phonon-VLC 0.5 was released in advance of VLC 2.0) and the main problem at that time was that I was stuck with the GStreamer POS. >_<
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Originally posted by Awesomeness View PostI don't use Amarok, I always completely deactivated PulseAudio, and it didn't/doesn't only affect OGG files (I didn't find a pattern or I would've reported it). Seems you're referring to another, similar bug.
I won't find out in the foreseeable future if ?my? GStreamer bug was fixed or not. I won't switch again just because somebody somewhere thinks that GStreamer is the superior solution as VLC simply works here.
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Originally posted by schmalzler View PostReally? Addressbook in kmail finally working?
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259949 (the last comment suggests it is not yet fixed)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=254126 (do you notice some progress with 4.10?)
nepomuk/virtuoso not burning down the cpu anymore, when something weird happens while indexing?
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Originally posted by GreatEmerald View PostThat bug only affected Amarok, and only when PulseAudio was active, and only when an OGG track was played after an MP3, and even then all it did was pause the playback...
I won't find out in the foreseeable future if ?my? GStreamer bug was fixed or not. I won't switch again just because somebody somewhere thinks that GStreamer is the superior solution as VLC simply works here.
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