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  • disi
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    For the quick terminal background job in between, I use https://extensions.gnome.org/extensi...down-terminal/
    Hitting the (quake-terminal)button rolls down a terminal, which starts a tmux session for me.

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  • kigurai
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    Originally posted by gens View Post
    i have a problem with many terminals and alt+tab treating them as a pile
    and as i don't have a high resolution display, meta key thing doesn't help
    I put at most one or two terminals per workspace, and use tabs to group similar tasks.
    My usual setup is to have one workspace for general stuff (e-mail, web, ...) where I open terminals if I need it (install package, move some files, ...).
    Second and third workspace is where I do work. Usually I can manage with only one of these.
    In the work workspace I usually do data collection and analysis. So I keep two two separate terminal windows open (one for collection, one for analysis). Since they each require multiple terminals, I open lots of tabs in each terminal window.

    Now I can change between collection and analysis using Alt-<key above tab>, and then Alt-<1,2,3,...> to change to tabs within the terminal window.
    Since Alt-<key above tab> chooses windows in the same workspace first, before windows in other workspaces, this works nicely.

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  • jackmitch
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    Originally posted by gens View Post
    i have a problem with many terminals and alt+tab treating them as a pile
    and as i don't have a high resolution display, meta key thing doesn't help

    by the time i find the terminal where i have to execute something, i forget what i was testing


    how do you expect people to understand your view if you dont even try understanding theirs ?
    Sorry, the above was intended as a question, I am genuinely interested in use cases people have which don't work.

    In this instance where I have multiple windows behind each other on one desktop I would use the Windows key and select the terminal I wanted.

    Failing that there is an extension which allows ungrouping of similar windows and also tabs accross multiple workspaces [1].

    [1] https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/15/alternatetab/

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  • jackmitch
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    Originally posted by gens View Post
    how do you expect people to understand your view if you dont even try understanding theirs ?
    Sorry, the above was meant to be phrased as a question, I was genuinely interesed in the use cases people had issues with.

    Originally posted by gens View Post
    by the time i find the terminal where i have to execute something, i forget what i was testing
    If I have multiple terminals, all on one desktop, I usually use the Windows key to open the 'tile' display or whatever it is called and then select the requred terminal.

    Failing that, there is an extension[1] which ungroups windows so they're easily selectable.

    [1] https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/15/alternatetab/

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  • gens
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    Originally posted by jackmitch View Post
    I also have no issues with the Gnome 3 workflow and I am an Embedded Software developer.

    I have windows galore with no issues, I really don't understand what problems people have.
    i have a problem with many terminals and alt+tab treating them as a pile
    and as i don't have a high resolution display, meta key thing doesn't help

    by the time i find the terminal where i have to execute something, i forget what i was testing


    how do you expect people to understand your view if you dont even try understanding theirs ?

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  • jackmitch
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    I also have no issues with the Gnome 3 workflow and I am an Embedded Software developer.

    I have windows galore with no issues, I really don't understand what problems people have.

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  • kigurai
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    Originally posted by Kamikaze View Post
    Really? I'm a developer too, and my workspace is pretty much filled with exactly the same applications as hubick described + SQL Developer, and a ton of terminal windows.
    Yes, really.

    Ahh.. you do all your development on a laptop? So you're already used to having no screen real estate and minimal apps open to get by?
    Nope, just recently started using a laptop. And since it has a 1920x1080 resolution, it is not much different from using my workstation (1920x1200). It's just a lot smaller

    Do you have any other assumptions about my workflow, or can you accept that there are people doing "real work" who are quite happy with GNOME3 and Gnome-Shell? :P

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  • gens
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    Originally posted by scionicspectre View Post
    So far as minimizing goes, GNOME is trying to avoid the behavior of hiding applications in an abstracted list. It's not a very natural behavior, and it may only seem so because most of us have been using task lists for a very long time. They don't represent much, and they are usually small targets for the mouse
    putting stuff in boxes for later use is one of the most natural things people do
    in fact it is so natural that every work desk, even computer work desk, has at least one drawer
    taskbars therefore are the most natural and comfortable way of having windows open that one will not use for a while

    gnome3 way of doing things is like having a desk with a couple piles of things
    while you may have overview and an illusion of control, the fact is you got a lot of junk on your work desk
    (if you were an electrician, mechanic or something similar; you'd have lots of problems and probably injuries...)


    so no, gnome3 way is not natural for most people
    it is natural for people that usually have messy desks
    (even thou i have a really messy desk, i still use the drawer for things i need once a day/month/etc)

    to clarify what i mean by "piles";
    if you open 3 terminals like i usually have and press alt+tab, you will find them in a sub-thingy grouped together
    then you have to use the arrow keys


    so in my opinion it is obvious that gnome3 was made for a tablet, not for a desktop

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  • Kamikaze
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    Originally posted by kigurai View Post
    Well, I am a programmer too, and had basically no problem adapting my workflow to Gnome-Shell.
    Really? I'm a developer too, and my workspace is pretty much filled with exactly the same applications as hubick described + SQL Developer, and a ton of terminal windows.

    Originally posted by kigurai View Post
    I am using GS on a laptop
    Ahh.. you do all your development on a laptop? So you're already used to having no screen real estate and minimal apps open to get by?

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  • cube
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    Is that sick we-won't-let-you-use-applets idea (because they will distract you or sth) still in force ?

    For me this is probably the worst thing in G3. I enjoy applets and find them really userful (I'm kind of applet-maniac and I feel good with that).

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