Canonical Releases Upstart 1.6

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  • funkSTAR
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 389

    #11
    Originally posted by kUrb1a View Post
    Systemd is not a bad technology far from it but if you wish bigger picture what it brings
    So what does a userland vs kernelland fight bring to the table? Nothing. This is about mutual exclusive init systems where one is a complete whack crack piece of deadware and the other is not.

    Upstart is a piece of old dung that needs to go away. systemd is the messenger.

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    • Malizor
      Phoronix Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 53

      #12
      You have to understand this:
      Upstart is modern, it works and it is well tested (does Systemd have a decent test suite now?).
      Ubuntu does not need to switch to Systemd right now.

      I do agree that having one standard init system everywhere would be great for many reasons. And Canonical would probably be happy to spend man power somewhere else than Upstart.
      I think they may reconsider this after 14.04.

      But such a change is not trivial. Especially with such a fast moving target as Systemd.

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      • kraftman
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 2457

        #13
        Originally posted by bwat47 View Post
        until after the next lts before making such a big change?
        Hopefully. systemd is much more user friendly and it's much easier to configure. It's also much more powerful, so I hope they'll switch.

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        • curaga
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 5924

          #14
          All your base are belong to us. We will assimilate you, no matter who was first or who is better.

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          • LightBit
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 553

            #15
            Go! Upstart! go!

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            • funkSTAR
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 389

              #16
              Originally posted by Malizor View Post
              (does Systemd have a decent test suite now?).
              Oh the joy. Refering to Shuttleworths FUD is allways fun. Oh wait it is not. Because it is debunked. Go debunk yourself.

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              • locovaca
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 271

                #17
                Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
                No point in having 10000 projects doing the same thing.
                Having 10000 projects doing the same thing is the hallmark of the past 20 years of *nix development. NIH syndrome is practically a requirement.

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                • funkSTAR
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 389

                  #18
                  Originally posted by LightBit View Post
                  Go! Upstart! go!
                  Thats right cheerleader LightBit. Givem some luv and support. They sure do need it since Upstart is pretty dead.

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                  • johnc
                    Official X.org Fanboy
                    • May 2011
                    • 2276

                    #19
                    systemd is the pulseaudio of init systems. no thank you.

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                    • siban
                      Junior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 26

                      #20
                      Originally posted by johnc View Post
                      systemd is the pulseaudio of init systems. no thank you.
                      Ignorance, the root and stem of all evil...

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