KDE 4.9.3 November Update Fixes 86 Bugs

[funkSTAR]

The lack of "exciting" new things in major kde releases is due to the fact that it is a mature piece of software.

Mature software loses its bugs, NOT its developers. So KDE is not maturing it is dying. It us quite funny to watch the vocal few in a total denial of the obvious. LuLz.

Gnome and unity is of course another story.

[ShadowBane]

Thus implying; If Michael doesnt write about it, it doesnt exist. What sad and poor world you live in. Here is a clue for you. A poor write up at phoronix doesnt mean shit. Go read the real release announcement og test it. Unlike KDE the unity or gnomers does se new action. Gnome 3.6 actually deserves some applaud for not being deadware like the non-releases put out by KDE.

The sad news of a early death by a KDE developer saved the last KDE release. If she didnt there was nothing to write about. Claire saved KDE for 4.9. Who will it be for 4.10?

The funny thing about desktops that don't suck: They don't have to go through radical changes with every major release.

The lack of "exciting" new things in major kde releases is due to the fact that it is a mature piece of software.

[DeepDayze]

Many of those hundreds of newly reported bugs have been fixed or are duplicates but worded differently. The problem KDE is having is distros like Debian keep using ancient releases when nearly every release of KDE is a cluster of bug fixes and nothing else. Also I've found KDE tends to break config files rather easily, which emulate a bug. you can reduce the amount of bugs if you delete your KDE settings, which is inconvenient considering e level of customization KDE has to offer. If you don't use the entire KDE suite I'm sure you can reduce bug encounters by using other programs.

I agree that KDE has more than they can really handle. There are whole sections they could cut out that a DE doesn't need such as koffice (while it does have its perks, its better to just make libraries to libreoffice to add integration), konqueror, nepomuk, kopete, and so on. I've found many KDE programs to be very sub-par, I'd rather just use DE-neutral programs with KDE plugins for integration. as I've said before, linux is getting too much competition within itself. software isn't getting the dedicated attention it used to because everyone wants to do their own thing.

Absolutely, if users are experiencing issues upon updates to KDE then the best fix is to delete the config files and restart which will reset KDE to defaults. Then the user can re-configure the settings they had before.

Bugs are always evident but if some variables are eliminated then the true bugs will be easier to spot

[funkSTAR]

Compare this one, just for fun:

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE5MzE

If there's not much to write about, there's just not much to write about. And that's a major release.

Thus implying; If Michael doesnt write about it, it doesnt exist. What sad and poor world you live in. Here is a clue for you. A poor write up at phoronix doesnt mean shit. Go read the real release announcement og test it. Unlike KDE the unity or gnomers does se new action. Gnome 3.6 actually deserves some applaud for not being deadware like the non-releases put out by KDE.

The sad news of a early death by a KDE developer saved the last KDE release. If she didnt there was nothing to write about. Claire saved KDE for 4.9. Who will it be for 4.10?

[halfmanhalfamazing]

What should he write a longer article about?

compare the kde 4.9.3 article with the gnome 3.5.3 article. Just for fun.

Compare this one, just for fun:

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE5MzE

If there's not much to write about, there's just not much to write about. And that's a major release.

[ShadowBane]

Digikam has been glitchy up until the past year, and k3b has been around so long it's actually the oldest program I remember, so it had time to mature. On top of that, k3b is a frontend (to the same programs that most other linux cd burning programs use), and correct me if I'm wrong but amarok is a frontend too. I see no problem whatsoever of developers making fontends that are DE specific, in fact i think it's the best idea of all - it encourages everyone to contribute to the same core functionality while allowing people to interface with it in their own way. That way everyone wins - the users get a more reliable backend, the backend devs get more support for a better product, the graphical designers don't have to start from scratch, the DE devs can easily integrate the program, and therefore eliminates the need for further backend competitors. In the Linux world, its nice to have alternatives but why re-invent the wheel when you can just use the frame of it but add your own tires and hubcaps?

A lot of the KDE applications are frontends to common stuff.

All of the media players go through phonon, which is a frontend for gstreamer, vlc, and a xine (there may be others, but gstreamer is the recommended and possibly only maintained one now)
The instant messenger is moving to be a telepathy frontend.
Okular uses the poplar pdf reading library.
konqueror/rekonq uses webkit and embeds other kparts.

Dolphin, plasma, and the PIM and office stuff are the only ones that are really 'ground up' everything else is built on common linux tech.

[schmidtbag]

Well, quite a few things turned out to be good enough: Digikam, K3b, Amarok. All of these benefitted from having KDE libraries at their disposal, and were (arguably still are) best-in-class applications.

Digikam has been glitchy up until the past year, and k3b has been around so long it's actually the oldest program I remember, so it had time to mature. On top of that, k3b is a frontend (to the same programs that most other linux cd burning programs use), and correct me if I'm wrong but amarok is a frontend too. I see no problem whatsoever of developers making fontends that are DE specific, in fact i think it's the best idea of all - it encourages everyone to contribute to the same core functionality while allowing people to interface with it in their own way. That way everyone wins - the users get a more reliable backend, the backend devs get more support for a better product, the graphical designers don't have to start from scratch, the DE devs can easily integrate the program, and therefore eliminates the need for further backend competitors. In the Linux world, its nice to have alternatives but why re-invent the wheel when you can just use the frame of it but add your own tires and hubcaps?

[energyman]

It's a minor bug fix release. What should he write a longer article about?

compare the kde 4.9.3 article with the gnome 3.5.3 article. Just for fun.

[Akka]

compared to the huge articles whenever some gnomer farts in the wrong direction this 'article' is just pathetic. Thanks Michael for once again reminding me why I do not pay but instead look at shiny ads.

It's a minor bug fix release. What should he write a longer article about?

[energyman]

compared to the huge articles whenever some gnomer farts in the wrong direction this 'article' is just pathetic. Thanks Michael for once again reminding me why I do not pay but instead look at shiny ads.