Ten Suggestions For The GNOME Camp

[smartysmart34]

Can't help but heavily rant on this one. Sorry in andvance...

You shouldn't be eating in front of your PC, bad things can happen
But seriously, is it that hard to press META and type 2-3 letters from the name of the app/file you want to load?

Is it really that hard to keep a usage concept that actually works with primary and/or mouse only usage? Instead of actually improving usability devs start making fun out of users wishes. Year right. Best thing to do. Maybe that's one of the reasons why so many "free" (equals unpaid) developers loiter in open source projects. If one of our developers would slap a users face with such a comment ("hey retard, is it really that hard to use the friggin keyboard...") he'd be fired within hours. A perfect example for "Why I'm sick of developers mailing lists".

But I could agree with you on this one. I guess people who eat in front of the monitor can't use Gnome-Shell.
Someone please put this one on that list. It should sound like '11-Improve support for eating by bringing back those damn clickable panels'

And it goes on. Making fun out of other peoples usage preferences. Guess what: I'm frequently sitting on the couch with my netbook while eating snacks with one hand and surfing the net or looking something up with the other hand using a touchpad. And I don't want to friggin use keys where there's no sane reason except for a moron developer saying "you shouldn't do that because I think you shouldn't. And therefore I made it cumbersome to do it.".

Yep, you nailed it this time...it's Apple's fault. Gnome devs should't innovate, because, well, that's a thing only Apple does.

Who the fuck decided that Innovation nowadays means making things worse? And when we're done making usability go away we double our efforts to store every rubbish online. Just becasue Apple does it it must be right.
On another Mailing list they mentioned the other day that playing CD/DVD media physically (by inseting discs in a drive) is too 70s to further support. The moment Linux goes that far I can swith to an OS that actually has more experience in delivering crap. At least the software stack integrates well there.

Regards,
Martin

[bkor]

Here is the big problem; there are MANY people who would LIKE to contribute, but those a$$holes who run gnome IGNORE them. There is no option to contribute. And not using it is also not an option since there aren't any viable replacements for it.... yet.

Sorry to barge in here; I am actually involved in GNOME.

Could you give any references to where you tried to contribute and were rejected? Could you show me the lack of options to contribute? I see various new Git accounts being created every week. So I wonder why you think otherwise.

Also please note that GNOME is a bunch of people, not everyone is a man, so calling everyone assholes is aside from rude also pretty sexist. Do note that within GNOME being needlessly rude is not acceptable behaviour.

[droidhacker]

Of course you can: don't use it, and definitely don't contribute to it. Development and usage are the currency of the open-source model, so by not using it you are very loudly giving your opinion.

Here is the big problem; there are MANY people who would LIKE to contribute, but those a$$holes who run gnome IGNORE them. There is no option to contribute. And not using it is also not an option since there aren't any viable replacements for it.... yet.

[droidhacker]

(why in the hell would you want 2 panels on the screen???!!!)

That is NOT for them (or you) to decide. Gnome-2 did NOT make you have 2 panels. If you only wanted one, you were free to only create ONE. If you want NINE, you were free to do that too. I *personally* want two panels to separate FUNCTION. Top panel for static launchers, menus, applets, etc., bottom panel for dynamic content like open window lists. You can't put those two into one panel because there wouldn't be enough space on one panel. You can't reasonably use two rows in a single panel because then you have to waste time/effort on unnecessary precision in order to select the proper row.


I use gnome-shell, customized to hell and back. It looks just like a two-row configuration of gnome-panel (gnome-2). It is efficient. I don't want to go into freaking retard mode blowing that worthless ugly interface over everything when all I want to do is bring another window to the front. I want that window listed right there and be easily accessed.

Gnome is going to hell, determined to drive themselves entirely into irrelevance. I could care less about it being "pretty", I need it to be FUNCTIONAL. They focus on worthless glitter. I WANT UGLY AND PRACTICAL!!!!!!

[Adrinnho]

wide borders, big touch spaces, inability to change any of that just tells its made for fat fingers
its not hate, its logic

following your logic here...man, I should put my mouse on a diet someday.

[cbamber85]

you cant influence the dev's so... why fight

Of course you can: don't use it, and definitely don't contribute to it. Development and usage are the currency of the open-source model, so by not using it you are very loudly giving your opinion.

[gens]

Man you represent the perfect synthesis for Gnome 3 haters this days...I mean, you can't argue with that!

wide borders, big touch spaces, inability to change any of that just tells its made for fat fingers
its not hate, its logic
even unity required some precision while you can use gnome3 with a rubber hammer on a touchscreen

some like it, some do not
thats why theres so much trolling around
and to be honest its pointless, no1 is stopping you from using gnome2 xfce cinnamon or whatever looks like old gnome and its shown you cant influence the dev's so... why fight

[Adrinnho]

all else is for fat people with tablets...

Man you represent the perfect synthesis for Gnome 3 haters this days...I mean, you can't argue with that!

[Adrinnho]

You are so funny! Not.

Just to feed you: What do you think about the latest changes to nautilus?

Yumeee

The ones being 'implemented', not much, not core functionality. Nautilus was always an inferior file manager compared to Dolphin for example.
Me, I use twin-panel file managers as I tend to prefer keyboard oriented file management, it's so much faster!

The big scary ones being planed...we wait and see. I'm sure that if they end up to be a disaster they will be reverted, like the lack of a dedicated shut down button in Gnome 3.6. But maybe they are good and we start liking them, I can't say anything now because they aren't yet implemented.
But give Gnome devs a little credit, let's see, maybe their design decisions end up into something good.

I was skeptical before trying Gnome 3, but in the end my fear proved to be untrue and I ended liking the new approach they took.

So, again, let's see where this goes.

[HokTar]

You shouldn't be eating in front of your PC, bad things can happen
But seriously, is it that hard to press META and type 2-3 letters from the name of the app/file you want to load?

You are so funny! Not.
This is the attitude I was referring to. And no, it's not impossible to do that or anything, but definitely annoying and in that case a regression - at least in my opinion.

But I could agree with you on this one. I guess people who eat in front of the monitor can't use Gnome-Shell.
Someone please put this one on that list. It should sound like '11-Improve support for eating by bringing back those damn clickable panels'

Well, I couldn't care less what the method is. I'm not against change. I had no issues in changing my workflow for GS (with respect to only using fullscreen apps, etc.). It's fine if I have to go to the corner and then select an application from a readable menu, or something. unfortunately, this is not the case currently in either Unity or GS. So you end up typing, which is annoying sometimes.

Yep, you nailed it this time...it's Apple's fault. Gnome devs should't innovate, because, well, that's a thing only Apple does.

Yep, you _completely_ missed the point. I was referring to the attitude, not blaming anybody. But you proved my point very nicely in that last post, too. After all, "it's a feature, not a bug", right?

Just to feed you: What do you think about the latest changes to nautilus?