The First Development Release For GNOME 3.4

[devius]

When you are used to full hd or higher res you definitely never want to use a CRT again.

My CRT is 1600x1200 (85Hz although it has enough bandwidth to go up to 92Hz if I had the patience to setup the correct modelines) so the prospect of loosing 120 vertical pixels isn't too attractive as most 24" screens these days are 16:9 instead of the much more useful 16:10 ratio. This CRT can even go up to 2048x1536 but only at 72Hz so not a very pleasant experience. Also, going for a new screen means paying money. As you can see by the other comments I'm not alone in this "bring back configurable refresh rates" quest.

[Hamish Wilson]

I will add to the calls for a return of the refresh rate option, since with KMS the default frame rate in games is locked to your refresh rate, and I know it does not really matter when it is over 60, but I would rather it be locked to 75.

Of course I could always just use lxrandr instead (or just plain old xrandr). But I would prefer to have the setting back.

[Kano]

In theory you would not need 24 hz but 24000/1001. But i never used that to watch a movie and i am still happy

[AnonymousCoward]

That's all fine in general, but some configuration options are still needed. E.g. monitor refresh rate configuration. Without that option I have to open a terminal and type "xrandr -r 85" every time I reboot my pc because it always reverts to 60Hz which makes my eyes bleed. Wow, that sure is user firendly! Not everybody is using LCDs and besides that having one extra combo box in there wouldn't ruin the clean interface anyway.

Monitor refresh rate configuration is not only useful for CRT. I have a LCD monitor and a LCD television attached to my PC. I usually set the TV refresh rate to 24Hz because it's better for watching movies. So I hate it to that they've removed this option.

[Kano]

Well i replaced it with a 1280x1024 19" tft some years ago, but later i got a 1680x1050 22" tft (sold already) and a 1920x1200 25.5" tft. When you are used to full hd or higher res you definitely never want to use a CRT again.

[devius]

Maybe you should get rid of your CRT...

Wow! So easy!! How could I have not thought of that before??

Now on a more serious note, I tend to have a hard time getting rid of stuff that is still working properly so I'll do like you did and wait for it to die before buying a new one.
I love the new linux desktops (Gnome3 and Unity) and I have no problems adapting to new situations, but even with all that flexibility I still miss some things from the old days, but overall I think the new workflow allows me to do more stuff faster than before.

[Kano]

Maybe you should get rid of your CRT... Ati disliked my modelines too i usually used for 1152x864@100, but then my CRT died and the problem was solved somehow

[devius]

Screensavers belong to the 90's. Everything that is not there was removed by purpose. Read Free Software UI, section "The Question of Preferences" to understand.

That's all fine in general, but some configuration options are still needed. E.g. monitor refresh rate configuration. Without that option I have to open a terminal and type "xrandr -r 85" every time I reboot my pc because it always reverts to 60Hz which makes my eyes bleed. Wow, that sure is user firendly! Not everybody is using LCDs and besides that having one extra combo box in there wouldn't ruin the clean interface anyway.

[korpenkraxar]

Gnome 3.4 looks very good: https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree/Features

It sure does!

Does anyone know what Boxes is btw? Has someone actually finally nailed session management?

https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree/Features/ApplicationMenu

*facepalm* Info about facepalm was right there :-D

[Khudsa]

Gnome 3.4 looks very good: https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree/Features