Java SE 7 Finally Sees The Light Of Day

[bug77]

Has anyone noticed that Oracle apparently owns 4 virtualization implementations? It seems that they only support Java when virtualized on their hypervisors. Anything else is not supported:

http://www.osnews.com/thread?482657

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/ja...ig-417990.html

I guess by not supported they mean no commercial support available for those hypervisors. Because I know several people that routinely run Java on VMWare.

[Shining Arcanine]

Has anyone noticed that Oracle apparently owns 4 virtualization implementations? It seems that they only support Java when virtualized on their hypervisors. Anything else is not supported:

http://www.osnews.com/thread?482657

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html

[talvik]

Java2D new xrender pipeline

One of the features of JSE7 is a new xrender pipeline for Java 2D.

Will there be any benchmarks coming? Has anyone tested the new render pipeline?

[Shining Arcanine]

The icedtea distribution is not run through Oracle's QA testing, and it has many many bugs that are not in the standard jdk

Their testing takes weeks, that's why build 147 was up there for so long before they finally released it.

In my experience many commercial java applications won't run at all with icedtea

Also in my experience these commercial apps are only tested with the official jdk, so the bugs are not even reported to icedtea.

icedtea may be feature compatible, but it most certainly has not had even close to the same level of testing.

What applications are these and what version of IcedTea did you use? Did you file bug reports?

The official java binaries continually suffer from security vulnerabilities that cannot be patched by its users (unless they are genii and can patch binaries) and they go unpatched for weeks or even months. Talk about the testing that Sun/Oracle does all you want, but no amount of official testing comes close to the amount of testing done by users and if the users don't file bug reports, it is not the developers fault.

[frantaylor]

IcedTea is NOT "the" java distribution

The icedtea distribution is not run through Oracle's QA testing, and it has many many bugs that are not in the standard jdk

Their testing takes weeks, that's why build 147 was up there for so long before they finally released it.

In my experience many commercial java applications won't run at all with icedtea

Also in my experience these commercial apps are only tested with the official jdk, so the bugs are not even reported to icedtea.

icedtea may be feature compatible, but it most certainly has not had even close to the same level of testing.

[Shining Arcanine]

OpenJDK is the java enviroment, icedtea-web is the java plugin, both are fully open source and in a fully libre GPL license.

I think IcedTea is a project by RedHat to give OpenJDK a UNIX compatible build system and fill in any portions that were not released by Sun. icedtea-web is one of them.

Also, while OpenJDK is open source (and licensed under the GPL as you say), Java itself is not. The source code to various bits is missing.

PCGEN : "work" but lots of lists are totally bugged (like, no item in the item list, no spell in the spell list...)

Minecraft : Crashed at launch the last time I tried.

The only issue I had was sound in Runescape and I filed a bug report to have it fixed. IcedTea has made a great deal of progress and its compatibility with the official java is nearly perfect. The most common issue is that some programs rely on Java identifying itself as Sun Java. If they do not see that, they have issues.

When was the last time you tried and did you try IcedTea or OpenJDK? Did you use an absurdly old version from your distribution's repositories that was from before OpenJDK passed the official Java compliance tests?

[RavFX]

Haven't run into anything that doesn't run on OpenJDK/IcedTea myself.

PCGEN : "work" but lots of lists are totally bugged (like, no item in the item list, no spell in the spell list...)

Minecraft : Crashed at launch the last time I tried.

[devius]

Haven't run into anything that doesn't run on OpenJDK/IcedTea myself.

[Viper_Scull]

Using openjdk and icedtea here.

Anyway i read about Java 7 was moving to openjdk:

http://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/moving_to_openjdk_as_the

[Laughing1]

OpenJDK is the java enviroment, icedtea-web is the java plugin, both are fully open source and in a fully libre GPL license.