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  • grantek
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    he must have meant "developing viscously"

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  • RagingDragon
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    "developing viciously"?

    What do you mean by "developing viciously"? Do you mean to imply that Ubuntu/Canonical have a malevolent motive or goal in developing Unity?

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/vicious

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  • 3vi1
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    A user's perspective...

    I've been trying out the latest Unity for a couple of days now. As a big fan of the *ubuntu distros, I gotta say "Don't release it in its current state."

    There have been random things crashing... installing new themes breaks old ones... the infamous lack of complete systray support... tweak one Compiz setting and break all window decorations... can't figure out autostart... etc.

    It's weird: I actually *like* Unity, it's just not ready. I've primarily been a Kubuntu user for the last six or seven years, and have *never* been tempted to switch to Gnome. However, I think I see where they're going with Unity and I like it.

    As one poster previously mentioned, this has a very KDE4.0 type aura about it. It may be great one day soon, like KDE4.6, but for right now it feels like a step backwards, even if accompanied by a turn in the right direction. It's important to put these deadlines out there to get developers and users actually using the product, but I wouldn't blame them at all for pulling Unity at last minute and putting it back in the next alpha.

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  • blackiwid
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    I did not really understand why they did not wanted to use gnome-shell I think its better and more stable than unity. I guess they developed it for netbooks and didnt want to through it in the trash, but why did they not officialy integrate as second alternative gnome-shell, its logicaly that a big userbase will choose gnome-shell over unity, if its 30% or 50% or 70% is not importent all this numbers are big enough.

    It would be enough to integrate the packages to a official source they not have to include it in the ubuntu-desktop meta-package.

    Maybe thats the thing thats let me change the distro again. But there are not that good alternativs, if you wanna debian-distro with less long release-cyles you have no big choices.

    gentoo is feeling that it is dieing and I want not to compile on netbook, I could not get comfy with arch yet, and I hate the redhat-deriviats (fedora, suse) we need new distries

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  • speculatrix
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    I switched to using LXDE as the desktop on my netbook (its GMA500 chipset just couldn't handle unity), as I found that the gnome applets ran in lxde happily which I needed to provide bluetooth and wifi control.

    LXDE is faster as it's lightweight and does all the things most people need.

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  • madjr
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    Originally posted by grantek View Post
    Haven't tried unity or gnome shell, but I find the gnome/compiz shortcut ctrl+alt+arrows to switch workspaces works well for normal desktop navigation, although in the use-case you're talking about, the user may not have both hands free... making the ctrl and alt keys sticky would help, whether that's implemented in software or hardware.
    "although in the use-case you're talking about, the user may not have both hands free"

    lol

    we need a panic / boss button

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  • FireBurn
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    Sounds like KDE 4.0 all over again

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  • grantek
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    Originally posted by madjr View Post
    teens will not like g-shell too much because they always need to minimize quickly
    Haven't tried unity or gnome shell, but I find the gnome/compiz shortcut ctrl+alt+arrows to switch workspaces works well for normal desktop navigation, although in the use-case you're talking about, the user may not have both hands free... making the ctrl and alt keys sticky would help, whether that's implemented in software or hardware.

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  • madjr
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    i think both unity and gnome-shell need 6+ more months to really substitute old gnome.

    but at least ubuntu does have the classic desktop option, so am pretty sure they will be shipping unity as default. If you still find unity lacking, then logout and switch desktop session.

    also am sure Mark wants developers to start doing creative stuff for unity.

    anyway the hardest thing i find in unity is having to manually scroll in the dam launcher and lack of systray for some stuff. and for gnome-shell the lack of an easy way to minimize, swap apps faster and other stuff.

    teens will not like g-shell too much because they always need to minimize quickly

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  • ethana2
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    I just want a dock with application category icons that all get pushed aside for their contents when you click them. I have to have categories without a keyboard, but text is ugly.

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