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  • deanjo
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    Originally posted by Linuxhippy View Post
    Without putting oil into fire, I have to agree.
    Just recently booted into an Fedora-8 installation, couldn't believe how smooth, fast and stable the whole desktop was.

    - Clemens
    I used to think the same way up until 4.3 was released. Ever since then things have been just as smooth as old KDE 3.5.

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  • Linuxhippy
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    Originally posted by not.sure View Post
    KDE 3.5 was the last usable KDE.
    (sort of true tho)
    Without putting oil into fire, I have to agree.
    Just recently booted into an Fedora-8 installation, couldn't believe how smooth, fast and stable the whole desktop was.

    - Clemens

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  • not.sure
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    Originally posted by Mr James View Post
    I just saved you guys some typing. Or did I miss one?
    KDE 3.5 was the last usable KDE.
    (sort of true tho)

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  • deanjo
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    Originally posted by Mr James View Post
    I just saved you guys some typing. Or did I miss one?
    Yup "KDE is not truly free." There is always one in the crowd that will try to make that point.

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  • Mr James
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    Originally posted by kayosiii View Post
    Out of curiosity which graphics drivers are you using. The key difference I am aware of with kwin is that it requires some new features than compiz which some drivers don't do overly well.
    No shit. There is a bug with the ATI proprietary driver that causes the mother of all annoyances - minimmmize a window and restore it, tada: X crashes. Solution? Disable (took me a while to figure this one) minimize effects in KWin.
    The KWin devs blame that on the driver. I agree as it does not happen with the nVidia closed driver.

    Now watch a swarm of ATI fans here say
    "Here we go again with bashing ATI drivers."
    "The KWin devs only use nVidia."
    "Why don't you send ATI cards to the devs?"
    "Go back to Windows you noob troll"

    I just saved you guys some typing. Or did I miss one?

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  • kayosiii
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    Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
    This sentence is surreal.

    As for KDE 4.6, I wish KWin would somehow double in performance. Kwin is the greatest stumbling block when moving from Gnome/Compiz to KDE: with the former, Opera, Firefox and Chrome scroll 100% smoothly (85fps on my monitor). With the latter, all three browsers fall to half or one third that rate and feel awful.
    Out of curiosity which graphics drivers are you using. The key difference I am aware of with kwin is that it requires some new features than compiz which some drivers don't do overly well.

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  • yotambien
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    Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
    As for KDE 4.6, I wish KWin would somehow double in performance. Kwin is the greatest stumbling block when moving from Gnome/Compiz to KDE: with the former, Opera, Firefox and Chrome scroll 100% smoothly (85fps on my monitor). With the latter, all three browsers fall to half or one third that rate and feel awful.
    A tenfold performance increase would be more like it. I'm not kidding, that's the magnitude of the difference I observed between several gtkperf tests under Kwin and Compiz.

    Originally posted by pingufunkybeat
    Why not use KDE + compiz?

    Compiz is not in any way dependent on GNOME. I used to run it with KDE, but eventually switched to KWin because it's a much better WM and the performance didn't bother me much.
    Because it's suboptimal. Maybe not so much for somebody used to Compiz, but as you said, Kwin is ahead in terms of, duh, window management. I don't think Compiz integration in KDE is superb either.

    Originally posted by Mr. James
    Because KWin is way better - even the cube has better quality graphics.
    Hang on. I agree Kwin is a better WM, and the effects have a more subtle and professional touch. The downside is that it performs badly, and I don't think the graphics quality is any better--particularly the cube.

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  • Mr James
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    Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
    Why not use KDE + compiz?

    Compiz is not in any way dependent on GNOME. I used to run it with KDE, but eventually switched to KWin because it's a much better WM and the performance didn't bother me much.
    Because KWin is way better - even the cube has better quality graphics.

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  • devius
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    Originally posted by TemplarGR View Post
    Yeah, just like with 4.5, pim was supposed to come with a 4.5.x release and it never came. It is possible this will happen again, and it will be postponed for 4.7...
    I sure hope this time they mean it. I can't stand kmail's limitations and bugs anymore, although I'm not sure these will get solved with kmail2.

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  • pingufunkybeat
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    Why not use KDE + compiz?

    Compiz is not in any way dependent on GNOME. I used to run it with KDE, but eventually switched to KWin because it's a much better WM and the performance didn't bother me much.

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