Wine 1.3.2 Updates Gecko, Other Changes

[V!NCENT]

Did you ever wonder why companies, inc
uding race car companies, advertice for teens and other young, but older people; they influence the older people who actialy have the money for these things.
My point? What students use and want is what the rest of society will be using and wanting in very short time.

[nanonyme]

In our university it's pretty much half Windows Vista, half Ubuntu. Most of the Mac's are student laptops or desktops specifically requested by university staff for personal use. Most of the people use docx or doc. What was your point, are we now doing a school-by-school comparison on what people use?

[V!NCENT]

How much I see MacBooks? 1/4th of what I see is Mac, especialy at school. What my school uses? It provides a root certificate for Linux wifi. It uses subversion for software development. It uses Netbeans for development. Everybody has an OO.o icon on there desktop. Welcome to 2010. Everybody either has a prepaid phone from the stonage (about 1/10th) or an Android phone or an iPhone. Androids outnumbers iPhones.

All students primairily use Google docs. Beamers can be connected to your own laptop.

You were saying?

[RCL_]

Lol Windows will die much, much, much faster then people around here might think.

Do you realize that there are billions of dollars invested in binary compatibility of Windows software by numerous companies world-wide? There may be a lot of new stuff which gets much of press attention, but look around and see for yourself how often you can see a Mac (let alone GNU/Linux) in schools, banks, offices, homes?

I don't see any platform that could possibly overtake Microsoft's market on desktops. If one wants to compete with them on technical merits (not on marketing), one should STOP (RE)EDUCATING USERS and just give them what they want, even if they want things that you personally disapprove on moral or technical grounds. That's what Microsoft does, basically and that's why it's popular (that is,successful).

Isn't it easy? Give people what they want => become popular.
Don't guess what they want, just ask.
And don't argue with the answer.

[V!NCENT]

Lol Windows will die much, much, much faster then people around here might think.

Microsoft is a software company. Let's not forget that. Software moves fast. Very fast. Microsoft hasn't catched on in any way except for the Xbox, which isn't a desktop.

Windows mobile, Zune, Tablet Edition, Bing, Live, Msn music, docx, Silverlight, One Care, xml, IE. No matter what they do they fail.

There is no lock in product anymore. Windows is just a giant fat cow, munching forward as it munches forward.

Meanwhile all their competitors are stealing marketshare away from them on _any_ front.

Let's face it; nobody uses docx and doc is totaly OO.o compatible for most and even then; Google Docs.

If you look at Microsoft as just another software company that has handed a lot of marketshare to them then you would say that it is failing. The rate of losing users is exponentialy increasing.

Seriously; Microsoft has had their golden days. Now it's just another company not producing serious competition and it fails at reinventing itself badly.

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[nanonyme]

Java becomes a restricted platform. Mac becomes dominant and Microsoft becomes the underdog. That's the plan from the powers that be. May work out that way may not. Apple is the most hft pumped stock in the world and has more money shoved down it's gullet than a pelican in a fish rain storm.

I seriously hope not. If you've paid any attention to what Apple has been doing, they're plenty more evil than Microsoft. At least Microsoft never forbid you from software developing on their platforms without actually owning one. Apple does.

[curaga]

A cool fact I found about wine some days ago: one can use it on windows, to have DX10 on xp for example. :P

[Mr.Black]

Windows' marketshare is greatly declining and most apps have replacements. Games however have not. Direct3D 11 is fancy, but I think solid legacy (XP and previous) should be a lot more solid so Wine can act as a Dosbox for Windows games for Mac and Linux converts. The Windows days _are_ numbered.

Sure, Window's days are numbered like anything else, but that number is probably very large. I don't see Windows going away anytime soon. I like your optimism though, but I don't really see GNU/Linux becoming the #1 OS out there, ever. And thats perfectly OK, GNU/Linux should not strive to be the most popular OS, it should strive to be the best GNU/Linux can be.

Theres just no way to compete against the marketing of Apple and Microsoft, and if you haven't noticed, marketing is everything today pretty much. It's not even about having a good product. Its all about how well you can advertise and market it, and Apple and Microsoft are pretty much the best in the business at that.

All I can say is, I didn't pick GNU/Linux over Windows because GNU/Linux is more popular (which obviously it isn't), but because it suits my needs and does everything I want, plus I love the community and the fact its built around free software, and for me thats everything right there. Linux will very likely never be more popular than the Mac or Windows, but it WILL live longer. I'm sure 60 years from now when I'm in my rocking chair with my days being numbered, Linux will still be around.

Wine would never download gekko on my x86_64 box. I deleted it.

It downloaded for me just fine, but I've had it where it wouldn't download. Best way to install it is probably through Winetricks, works everytime.

[Hephasteus]

Wow is that one hell of a optimistic opinion, especially after all the years OS X, linux, BSD, etc has been out it still dominates with over 90% of the marketshare. At the current pace of market adoption it would take well over 50 years to even come close to reaching 50%.

Java becomes a restricted platform. Mac becomes dominant and Microsoft becomes the underdog. That's the plan from the powers that be. May work out that way may not. Apple is the most hft pumped stock in the world and has more money shoved down it's gullet than a pelican in a fish rain storm.

[Kano]

Well never is maybe wrong. It worked up to a certain day somehow. After that i needed to add wine-gecko as package.