KDE Software Compilation 4.5.1 Released

[pingufunkybeat]

There is another problem with

export LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1

It forces your opengl version to 1.4 and then makes me unable to play HoN.

The problem with LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT is that if a GL program crashes, it takes down all of X with it.

I remember using it back when OpenArena was broken with the free drivers.

[kraftman]

Oh, the SC is very stable. It's just that Arch makes KDE software even more unstable than Kubuntu does. Kubuntu at least tries to fix past mistakes but Arch obviously has no interest in this....

On openSUSE 11.3 KDE SC 4.5.0 was already rock solid. I'm downloading 4.5.1 now.

KDE 4.5 is rock solid here in Arch. Gnome is messed up in Fedora and crashes frequently and this shows the latest 'stable' versions of Gnome aren't stable at all.

[kraftman]

I am REALLY interested in what way Archlinux is doing this. I wonder how Archlinux "breaks" this package.

It's dbus which is messed up:

http://dot.kde.org/2010/08/31/kde-releases-451

look at the second comment. Dbus won't be fixed till another release... However, I'm not affected so far.

[gilboa]

The KDE hate around here is hilarious.

Debian and RedHat are STILL trying to kill it. You'd think that they'd have given up after 10 years.

Oh? Are you on drugs?
I'm using SC 4.5.1 on Fedora 13 (From kde-redhat, Fedora KDE SIG's testing group) and works more-or-less out of the box.
KDE under Fedora is far from being a second hand citizen.

- Gilboa

[FreeBooteR69]

Works for me

I love KDE now. Only problem i had in Archlinux was Dolphin occassionally crashed and login screen no longer remembers the last user name.

I have upgraded to 4.5.1 and so far Dolphin hasn't crashed, but user name still isn't remembered at login. Hardly a show stopper.

I don't feel any nostalgia for Gnome, happy KDE camper here.

[KDesk]

In Arch Linux there is now a patched dbus 1.2 to fix the threadsafe problem http://repos.archlinux.org/wsvn/pack...us-core/trunk/ that affects mostly to Dolphin.

[mugginz]

I'd like to see the head KDE guys drop all usage of KDE and use Gnome or Windows for a month or two and then go back to using KDE. Hopefully then they'd finally see a lot of the annoyances that people describe that are still not addressed.

[liam]

Fascinating.

KDE 4.5 is rock solid here in Arch. Gnome is messed up in Fedora and crashes frequently and this shows the latest 'stable' versions of Gnome aren't stable at all.

I've got a F14 alpha(Gnome) running just fine.
BTW, to those who say Red Hat "owns" Gnome in some sense, look at this http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2010/07/28/gnome-census/
They are the single largest contributor, but only just. Interestingly, volunteer work was the largest segment with nearly 24.5%.

[kraftman]

I love KDE now. Only problem i had in Archlinux was Dolphin occassionally crashed and login screen no longer remembers the last user name.

I had this problem with login screen in Kubuntu with 4.5, but I don't have it in Arch. Maybe it depends on KDM theme? I'm using Ethais.

[kazetsukai]

I'd like to see the head KDE guys drop all usage of KDE and use Gnome or Windows for a month or two and then go back to using KDE. Hopefully then they'd finally see a lot of the annoyances that people describe that are still not addressed.

They don't need to, they just need to go back to KDE 3.5 for a little bit. Then maybe they'll finally realize....

Why is my second X screen black in KDE4?